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Eurovision Song Contest Betting 9th - 13th May 2023

Discussion in 'Special & Novelty Betting' started by slick, May 5, 2023.

  1. slick

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    It's that time of the year again :)

    The Eurovision Song Contest, which was scheduled to be hosted in Ukraine, has been disrupted due to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. After the Kalush Orchestra's triumphant win in Turin, it was customary for Ukraine to host the event. However, due to the current situation, the contest cannot take place in Ukraine.

    As a result, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has stepped up and announced that they will be hosting Eurovision 2023 in Liverpool, United Kingdom. Liverpool is a city known for its vibrant music scene and is home to many legendary musicians. The BBC has expressed their commitment to ensuring a spectacular event that showcases the best of British music and culture.

    This decision has been met with excitement and enthusiasm from music fans worldwide, who eagerly await the event to witness some of the world's best artists showcase their talents. With Liverpool's rich musical history and the BBC's commitment to producing a spectacular show, Eurovision 2023 is sure to be an unforgettable experience.

    In conclusion, despite the unfortunate circumstances, the United Kingdom will be hosting the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 in Liverpool.

    Are you curious about when Eurovision 2023 will take place? Well, the highly anticipated event is scheduled to be held over the course of a week and will feature three exciting shows: Semi-final 1 on Tuesday, Semi-final 2 on Thursday, and the Grand Final on Saturday.

    Mark your calendars for the following dates:

    • Semi-final 1: May 9th, 2023
    • Semi-final 2: May 11th, 2023
    • Grand Final: May 13th, 2023
    All three shows will commence at 21:00 CEST and will be hosted by a quartet of talented individuals: Julia Sanina, Graham Norton, Hannah Waddingham, and Alesha Dixon.

    Make sure to tune in and join the millions of people worldwide who will be eagerly watching this highly anticipated event.

    Liverpool, the host city for the 2023 Eurovision Song Contest, has undergone a remarkable transformation from its industrial roots to become a vibrant and thriving cultural hub in Britain.

    As the fifth largest metropolitan area in the United Kingdom, Liverpool boasts a population of 2.2 million, and in 2019, it ranked as the fifth most visited city in the UK. Liverpool has carved a significant niche in the arts, particularly in music, given that it is the birthplace of The Beatles.

    The city's rich musical heritage, coupled with its architectural splendor, has made it an attractive destination for tourists and music lovers from around the world. With a plethora of museums, galleries, and cultural events, Liverpool offers an unforgettable experience to visitors.

    In conclusion, Liverpool's selection as the host city for the Eurovision Song Contest 2023 is a testament to its reputation as a dynamic and culturally significant city. We invite you to explore Liverpool and immerse yourself in its rich cultural heritage.

    The Eurovision Song Contest 2023 will be graced by the participation of 37 countries from different parts of the world. These countries are as follows:

    1. Albania
    2. Armenia
    3. Australia
    4. Austria
    5. Azerbaijan
    6. Belgium
    7. Croatia
    8. Cyprus
    9. Czechia
    10. Denmark
    11. Estonia
    12. Finland
    13. France
    14. Georgia
    15. Germany
    16. Greece
    17. Iceland
    18. Ireland
    19. Israel
    20. Italy
    21. Latvia
    22. Lithuania
    23. Malta
    24. Moldova
    25. Netherlands
    26. Norway
    27. Poland
    28. Portugal
    29. Romania
    30. San Marino
    31. Serbia
    32. Slovenia
    33. Spain
    34. Sweden
    35. Switzerland
    36. Ukraine
    37. United Kingdom
    These countries will be showcasing their unique musical talent and cultural diversity in the contest, which is expected to be a spectacular event.

    Wondering which countries will be competing in the Eurovision 2023 Semi-finals? Let us fill you in!

    As per the Semi-final allocation draw held on January 31, 2023, Ukraine and the Big-5 countries, namely Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and the United Kingdom, have secured their place in the Grand Final on May 13, 2023, without having to compete in the Semi-finals.

    The remaining participating countries have been divided into two Semi-finals, scheduled to take place on May 9 and 11, 2023, respectively. Each Semi-final will have 10 countries competing, with the top 10 from each Semi-final advancing to the Grand Final. This means that a total of 26 countries will be competing in the Grand Final - 10 from Semi-final 1, 10 from Semi-final 2, and the Big-5 and Ukraine.

    Stay tuned into Betnod for updates on the exciting Eurovision 2023 competition.
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  2. Beanie

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    Howdy slick. Slightly uninspired this year as the song standard is really poor (*insert obvious joke about them always being poor here*) so not been so immersed in it, but will post something pre-final.

    The semi final tonight is public vote only (change from last year) so no juries.

    Only pre-semi final 1 tip is I that I think Czech Republic is underrated and will do well once seen on stage. 2.50 widely available for the top 10.

    Also Slovenia top Balkan @ 2.38 worth a look. Only really has Serbia to beat here which is quite messy and not picking up any traction (outside chance of it going out tonight, but unlikely.)

    Little to pick between a lot of the songs at the lower end, but my ranking in terms of Q chances below.

    Finland (dont think it would win the semi if juries were involved, but should do on public vote only.)
    Sweden
    Czech Republic
    Israel
    Norway
    Moldova
    Croatia
    Serbia
    Switzerland
    Netherlands

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    Portugal
    Malta
    Latvia
    Azerbaijan
    Ireland
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  3. Jezza

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    All right lads, good to see you both back this year. Thanks for the write ups as always Beanie, looking to make my bets soon - probably after the semi final tonight.

    Notice we have another strong favourite in Sweden, is it a dead cert or some value to be had going against it? I'm def not backing it to win at that price no matter how good a song it is.
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    Good to see you jez - Eurovision always brings me back home to Betnod :D

    I think it's more a reflection of the overall weakness of the competition - it's a fairly polished entry - nothing new or novel but ticks a lot of Eurovision boxes in terms of presentation, song build, performance - that should do very well with juries. Televote is less certain as there aren't too many USPs, but in a weak year a strong jury score and top 5-10 televote score may be enough.

    One of it's problems may be that if commentators present the song as an extremely heavy favourite, the less motivated viewers are to vote for it - like when Simon Cowell used to (deliberately!) say on the Xfactor "You are sailing through to the next round", it's message to the audience is "you dont need to vote for this as it will win/go through anyway."

    We will get the running order late tonight (I think) which may give some clues in terms of how songs performed in the semis, so I'll add some thoughts on the final tomorrow morning.
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    Yeah good to see you again Beanie.
    I'll give these a coat of listening to tomorrow.
    I've not heard a dickybird yet so I'm going in blind if that makes sense lol.

    Oh tell a lie, I work with a Finnish fella who insisted I watch their act on youtube, it looked like a crock of shit to me with some pot bellied bloke wearing....well I don't know what he was wearing but it looked like he had lost a bet.
    It wasn't for me but by all accounts it was popular apparently, If that's the standard then tomorrow night is gonna be a long one.
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  6. Beanie

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    Few thoughts as it stands - jury rehearsal tonight will be important.

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    Silly to try and predict every song and it will look very wrong on Sunday, but current thoughts:

    Win:

    Sweden - Likely tops the jury vote, and online buzz/chart stats suggest its going to be top 5 televote also, which is likely to be enough. Price looks too short though.

    Top 5 - no particular order:

    Finland - may win televote, but hamstrung by juries
    Israel - Great starting slot, strong televote, another one that will be limited by juries
    Italy - surprisingly good twitter response during the live show on Tuesday. Not rated by the market, but coming after Albania is a good draw and the performance is engaging - juries usually give Italy a strong boost and this is jury bait. Top 5 @ 2/1, top 4 @ 5/1, or each way at anything 60/1+ might land the place money
    Spain - another jury bait song that did well in online reaction midweek. Similar to italy - odds are lower but top 5 @ 2/1 not out of the question.

    6-10 - no particular order:

    Austria
    Portugal
    - Surprised by this progressing in the televote only semi. Running order is terrible, but top 15 @ 4/1 looks too big.
    Slovenia - Indicators that it did well in semi, and good running order slot. May sneak top 10 @ 3/1+. Top Balkan odds still look ok, but Croatia televote does pose some thread.
    Norway
    Armenia

    11-15 - no particular order:

    Ukraine - very difficult to guess the televote this will get, and now a big diaspora throughout Europe, but not sensing anywhere near the same buzz as last year. Can get 3/1 on them not making top 10.
    Czech Republic - Running order slot is poor, and suggests may not have done so well in the semi. Reducing confidence in this, and top 10 no longer looks particularly appealing.
    France - lots of buzz but twitter/facebook/instagram reaction was dead on Tuesday. Jury vote may save it. 2/1 to miss top 10 worth a look.
    Belgium
    Croatia


    16-20 - no particular order:

    Poland
    Albania
    Australia
    Moldova
    Estonia
    - should get a decent jury score. Think it may beat Lithuania at odds against.

    21-25 - no particular order:

    Serbia
    Cyprus
    - Evens for it to miss top 15. Dont think juries will go for this.
    Lithuania
    Germany
    Switzerland


    Last Place:

    UK - think it could be us again. 5/1 on this. Online metrics are terrible, and rehearsal vocals not good. difficult to see where the points come from (but this is a very volatile market - one random 12 points can lift any song well away from the bottom.)
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  7. Jezza

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    Great post Beanie thanks, getting my bets on today.
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    Limits are a big problem for me today. I tried to back Lithuania last place @ 21.0 bet 365 and got max stake £1. Also Slovenia to make the top 5 @ 23.0 skybet was max £2 for me. Ridiculous.
  9. Beanie

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    Yeah it's grim for the most part. Bookies got hammered on the smaller Eurovision markets during the 2010s because the only people betting on them were typically the Eurovision betting community who knew a lot more than the odds setters. Add personal limits on top and as you say its pennies.

    The worst ones are when youve found a great price and they send them off to a trader for review. "We cant offer you £100 @ 8/1. Do you wish to accept £6.67 @ 5/1". Need to give a live chat option on those so that you can tell the trader to fuck off.

    Flipping Norway and Czech in my finishing groups. Norway doing well on https://esctracker.com/
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    Lol yeah, you can actually do this one one bookmaker I know - it has a literal "Chat to a trader" button :lol
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    BetUK are allowing me 54p on Portugal top 10 8/1. I can rebet it after 15 mins have passed. Come back to me next week when im up to a fiver on.
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    :lol
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    AUSTRIA: Teya & Salena - Who The Hell Is Edgar?


    Not too bad, has a touch of the cheeky girls about it.
    first one I've listened to and I like it, It's a shame its first up and could diminish as the show goes on.
    Even though it's the first one I've listened to, I'm putting it down as top 10 material, if need be I'll narrow it down further when I've listened to them all.
    I'm presuming the song is going to be sung in English.

    Song info:
    "Teya & Salena - Who The Hell Is Edgar?" is a song by the Austrian singers Teya and Salena. The song was released on 4 March 2022, and it is sung in German.

    The song is a humorous take on the common name "Edgar" and the stereotypes associated with it. The lyrics describe various scenarios involving someone named Edgar, such as Edgar being a "typical nerd" or "wearing socks with sandals."

    The chorus of the song asks the titular question: "Who the hell is Edgar?" The song is upbeat and catchy, with a danceable rhythm and electronic instrumentation.

    Overall, "Teya & Salena - Who The Hell Is Edgar?" is a fun and lighthearted song that celebrates individuality and mocks societal norms and expectations.



    PORTUGAL: Mimicat - Ai Coração


    This isn't so bad either, sounds more French than portugese.
    I could russian dance to this lol, very lively and energetic, like something out of a musical.
    Another I'm shortlisting , I've just spotted it's 7's for a top 10 finish, I'll have some of that.


    Song info:
    "AI Coração" is a song by Portuguese singer Mimicat. The song was released on April 9, 2021, and is sung in Portuguese.

    The song is a mixture of pop, funk, and electronic music, with a catchy chorus and upbeat rhythm. The lyrics of the song talk about the feeling of falling in love and how it affects the heart. Mimicat's vocals are soulful and passionate, conveying the emotions of the lyrics.

    The music video for "AI Coração" features Mimicat in various colorful and vibrant settings, dancing and singing with a group of dancers. The video is fun and energetic, matching the vibe of the song.

    Overall, "AI Coração" is a catchy and uplifting song that celebrates love and its ability to make our hearts beat faster. Mimicat's soulful vocals and the song's energetic instrumentation make it a standout track in the Portuguese music scene.



    SWITZERLAND: Remo Forrer - Watergun


    Not so sure about this, The intro was ok but now the song has started the lyrics sound a bit naff, I don't think singing the song in English is doing it any favours. If I didn't know what he was singing about I might have liked it.
    It's a no from me I'm afraid.


    Song info:
    "Watergun" is a song by Swiss singer and songwriter Remo Forrer. The song was released on May 28, 2021, and is sung in English.

    The song has a catchy, upbeat melody and a driving rhythm, featuring a blend of electronic and acoustic instrumentation. The lyrics describe a playful and carefree summer romance, with Forrer comparing his lover's eyes to a "watergun" and describing their time together as a "dream."

    The music video for "Watergun" features Forrer and his love interest having fun and enjoying the summer together, with scenes of them playing with water guns and lounging on the beach. The video captures the carefree and joyful spirit of the song.

    Overall, "Watergun" is a fun and upbeat song that captures the feeling of young love and carefree summer days. Forrer's smooth vocals and the song's catchy melody make it a standout track in the Swiss music scene.


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    POLAND: Blanka - Solo


    Another catchy number, nah it's getting a bit repetitive now and the vocals aren't really being tested, she's becoming a bit monotonous.
    I think she could have done better with a bit more effort, C+ from me. I won't be going back to this one.

    Song info:
    "Solo" is a song by Polish singer Blanka. The song was released on April 16, 2021, and is sung in Polish.

    The song is a pop ballad with a melancholic and introspective tone. The lyrics describe the feeling of being alone and the struggle to find oneself. Blanka's vocals are emotive and raw, conveying the vulnerability and pain expressed in the lyrics.

    The music video for "Solo" features Blanka in various settings, including a dark forest, a desolate beach, and an empty apartment. The video captures the loneliness and isolation expressed in the song, as Blanka searches for a connection and a sense of purpose.

    Overall, "Solo" is a powerful and emotive song that explores the universal experience of feeling alone and lost. Blanka's haunting vocals and the song's melancholic melody make it a standout track in the Polish music scene.


    SERBIA: Luke Black - Samo Mi Se Spava


    The quality's tapering off now, this song is rather confusing, I couldn't tell you what genre it is, it moves from ballad to pop to rock to opera , It could have been a lot better if Lukes voice was stronger and louder, maybe it's something they could tweak on the night.
    Either way it's not going in my top 10.

    Song info:
    "Samo Mi Se Spava" is a song by Serbian singer Luke Black. The song was released on April 8, 2021, and is sung in Serbian.

    The song is a pop ballad with a romantic and melancholic tone. The lyrics describe the feeling of missing someone and the longing to be with them. Luke Black's vocals are emotive and soulful, conveying the passion and intensity of the lyrics.

    The music video for "Samo Mi Se Spava" features Luke Black in various settings, including a deserted road and a forest, as he sings about his longing for his lover. The video captures the emotional intensity and vulnerability expressed in the song.

    Overall, "Samo Mi Se Spava" is a powerful and emotive song that captures the intensity of romantic longing. Luke Black's soulful vocals and the song's melancholic melody make it a standout track in the Serbian music scene.



    FRANCE: La Zarra - Évidemment


    Typical French sounding song here and nice vocals, in recent years these get tipped to do well but sadly fail.
    Maybe this year could be different as La Zarra certainly sets a French vibe and sounds the part.
    I like this a lot and it's going on my shortlist.


    Song info:
    "Évidemment" is a song by French singer La Zarra. The song was released on February 25, 2022, and is sung in French.

    The song is a pop ballad with a romantic and sentimental tone. The lyrics describe the feeling of being in love and the certainty that it brings. La Zarra's vocals are soft and delicate, conveying the tenderness and vulnerability of the lyrics.

    The music video for "Évidemment" features La Zarra in various settings, including a forest and a garden, as she sings about the certainty of her love. The video captures the romantic and dreamy atmosphere of the song.

    Overall, "Évidemment" is a beautiful and heartfelt song that celebrates the power of love and certainty. La Zarra's delicate vocals and the song's sentimental melody make it a standout track in the French music scene.
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    CYPRUS: Andrew Lambrou - Break A Broken Heart


    This songs reminds me of something but I can't think what, it's definitely ripping another song off.
    Nah, I've heard enough of this and turned it off half way through, it's got nothing going for it.
    Worst one yet.


    SPAIN: Blanca Paloma - EAEA


    This is a bit different, the Intro sounds like a call to prayers at the local mosque.
    Now it's going downhill and sounding like a nursery rhyme, this started with loads of potential but imo it's been sadly wasted,
    Sorry this isn't for me although it may well hit top 10 as it does sound very diverse.


    SWEDEN: Loreen - Tattoo


    Loreen has a bit of the Kate Bushes about her, sounds nothing like her mind but she does possess a very strong voice, just a pity the song isn't as strong.
    This will do well due to the performance of Loreen and the visuals, It should reach top 10 but i think the song is to weak to see it over the winning line.
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    I see that last one is the favourite and I'm suggesting it might just hit top 10:lol

    That's why I like hitting these blind and then compare my views with the experts to see if I need my ears cleaning out or not:lol
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    Saying that, this is 'The Eurovision song contest' and not 'the Voice', if it was she'd be my favourite so far.
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    ALBANIA: Albina & Familja Kelmendi - Duje


    Has a similar intro to the Spanish song, the acoustics sound a bit tinny but it's not to bad a song.
    It's never going to win but as I'm now looking at the betting I don't think it'll finish last either.


    ITALY: Marco Mengoni - Due Vite


    This is good, has a nice Italian vibe about and like the French song easily identifiable, Whic is what the Eurovision should be all about.
    I'm shortlisting this and putting it in my top five.

    ESTONIA: Alika - Bridges


    Ahh a Ballad, there doesn't seem as many this year as previous years.
    This is very middle of the road. Could finish top 15 but will struggle to reach top 10 imo.
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    FINLAND: Käärijä - Cha Cha Cha


    This is garbage and the sort of song i slag off every year but comes back to bite me on the arse.
    It's by far the worst I've heard so far and how It's anywhere near being favourite I'll never know.

    CZECHIA: Vesna - My Sister's Crown


    This ain't so bad, I'm watching the first semi final vid and the acoustics sound very hollow.
    It's becoming rather bland the longer it goes on, it doesn't really gather any momentum or tempo , just droning on and on, not for me,

    AUSTRALIA: Voyager - Promise


    This could do well, Europeans tend to like a bit of rock and guitar, it's not a great song but there's enough going on visually to keep the viewer interested all the way through the song.
    I'd shortlist this in my top 10 @ 4's and I'd go for the song to better that But because of European bias as the UK has found out itself to it's own detriment in recent years, Australia will probably do well to finish in the top 20.
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    BELGIUM: Gustaph - Because Of You


    The Intro has got me, I like this, could have potential.
    Tapering off now, starting to sound like poor mans M People, now watching the video and see it's a boy george lookalike, that could work in this diverse age.
    even so it was catchy throughout, I'll add it to my top 10 list


    ARMENIA: Brunette - Future Lover


    This is nice and tranquil, and then like so many tonight it doesn't pack any ooomph and fades away.
    This doesn't do anything for me,

    MOLDOVA: Pasha Parfeni - Soarele şi Luna


    Is this really a song? it's more like an intro to a magic act,
    Just as i was about to write it off it's started to pick up, has a Turkish sound to it now,
    Not half as bad as it started off, not a winner but I can see it doing better than it's odds suggest.
    Top 15 imo.
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