Antepost Soccer Betting/35% r.o.i

(Of course the 5-4/11-8 was gone* when the blues lost at QPR.I actually thought that City would be 10-11 if that happened,or possibly 4-5,so obviously I am v happy with 11-10/6-5.
I make City a 4-6 shot and I believe the reason they are not is because,at the moment, the bookies face a HUGE payout if Utd win the prem.due to the thousands who wouldve done Utd,West Ham,Huddersfield/Charlton/Sheffd. Weds.,Crawley as their pre-season acca)

*apart from boylesports but they dont take big bets(not from me anyway)

CORAL 8 points accumalator

DAGENHAM and REDBRIDGE to be rel. 9-2, HUDDERSFIELD to be promoted, 4-6,SOUTHAMPTON to be promoted 4-5,MAN.CITY to win the Prem. 6-5

BOYLESPORTS,accumulator

southampton e/w champs 9/5 1/4 123,huddersfield e/w lg1 15/8 1/4 123,southend e/w lge 2 9-2 1/4 123,ac milan e/w serie a 10/11 1/3 12
8points e/w = 16 points

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Here's a question for Hotspur about the Johhnstone Paint Trophy:

The competition is split into north and south sections. Two of the northern sides are heavy favourites to win it (Preston and Sheff Utd). The shortest price in the south is Brentford at 8/1; all others down south are 14/1 or longer.

As a southern side has to reach the final, I can't help thinking that there's some money to be had in the each way 1/2 market here; maybe by back and lay; but I can't work out a strategy. Any thoughts?

only just seen this Thundercelt.
I can say right away that this is a good example of a way of making money from antepost markets..I will let you know a bit later

having had a very quick look on oddschecker,I see that:
a)the bookie that is 8s-whill-is not offering e/w
b)the other bookies are only going 1/3 the odds a place(in order to deal with this very phenomenon)
however there probably is value in the southern teams
I will say what I would do later...gotta read the papers first!

thats weird,was just looking at the JP odds on oddschecker and now the e/w terms are 1/2 12!!!!
couldve sworn they were 1/3 earlier-if they are 1/2 12 then there is DEf. value TC.still deciding what to do for the best.....probably answer tomorrow...

Thundercelt,I am posting this now as I am not sure if Ill have time to later on but I dont have the definitive answer yet to the JP question because
a) any strategy depends on how much you want to try and win/what risk you are willing to take
b)in trying to answer your specific question about the southern section,I have noticed a price decrepency in the northen section that I find more intriguing..

In general terms TC,I would say that if you wish to take advantage of any value in the place part of the e/w prices in the southern section,thenyou can simply go ahead and bet ANY of the southern teams e/w at best prices-together with brentord win only at hills 8s as a saver.....
How exactly you go about this depends on your own assessment of each teams chances of negotiating the QFs.

I think the main thing about the JPT is that,quite possibly(and of course this is just my opinion)ALL of the prices on the 14 outsiders are value because Preston are TERRIBLE value(and Sheffd Utd are poor value).
I mean Paddy Power has Rochdale as faves to qualify v Preston ....yet VC has Rochdale at a MUCH higher price to win the Northern section than Preston!!??

I personally wont be doing any bets but if I was,for an interest and for a reasonable chance of a 10-12% profit,I might,off the top of my head,do the following win only bets from a bank of 200 points:

Brentford 8-1 8pts
Swindon 18-1 5 pts
Oxford 18-1 8 pts
Southend 20-1 6 pts
Cheltenham 33-1 5pts
Bournemouth 14-1 4 pts
Rochdale 18-1 5 pts
Tranmere 20-1 8pts
Chesterfield 14-1 (?) 6pts
Oldham 14-1 6 pts
Crewe 40-1 3pts
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NB I am actually pretty tired and the JPT is not something I get involved with what with not having any idea who even wants to win so if any of the above should prove to be stupid/wrong...thats my excuse.
anyway,good luck Thundercelt

Thanks hotspur, that's interesting stuff and a good answer to my question.

thanks..in a hurry....
thinking about it,I would add the blades to my portfolio-they are now 9-2.not sure how many points.......Ill go 16 pts
and I will add Bradford at 40s for 2 pts.
I think I would be happy with that and if Preston were to win then,thems the breaks...although I do of course still have
118 points in my BANK.
BTW,whill are now 13-2 Brentford!!!
dont tell me betnod have moved a market!!!!/-probably not

personally,am toying with the idea of betting rochdale to win northern section,with savers on preston to win(90 mins. and the 1-1 and 2-2 draws......could be a value/fun bet

just to "tidy up" my portfolio-I am adding 4pts to Brentford @15-2,4pts to Wimbledon@25s and 2 pts to the cherries @14s
(dunno why wimbledon is red!)

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thanks,looks like Brentford were only available at 7s not the 15-2 I quoted

And in all the excitement of preparing my 'to win' bid on Swindon (and a few others) and then backing the Wombles tonight I forgot one game kicked off at 7pm and so all the bookies I'm with suspended antepost bets

But at least it's been good to look at a type of bet I've never really taken seriously up to now.

I got caught out as well-knew about the 7.00pm ko ...just didnt know it was 7.00 already...so didnt get on Rochdale to win northern section-think they were 9s!!?with saver on preston(wouldve done to qualify as the 90 min odds were poor).
not sure you should take such bets too seriously TC...theres better oportunies in the leagues right now...

WELL,a right PICKLE I seem to have found myself in ...thanks to Preston qualifying and the blades losing...Had the blades qualified I would have been happy not having anything on Preston*.....and,naturally,the only outsider I had no dosh on win,Barnet
okie dokie......
6pts chesterfield 11-1
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*I will now probably have to bet on Preston in case they draw bradford.....dunno when the draw is,if its after tonites game then I will just have to hope they get,ideally,Oldham...

as its a 7.45 ko,I had better be sensible and avail myself of the 10/3 on preston-30 points*
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*10/3 is a better bet than 5-1 with an away tie at Dale and Sheff Utd still in the same section...

and 6 points on Barnet 20-1

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WHILL accumulator
charlton e/w lge 1 15/8,southend e/w lge 2 7-2(both 1/4 123),cowdenbeath e/w sd2 11/8,annan e/w sd3 13/8(both 1/5 123)

18 pts e/w = 36 pts

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WHILL accumulator
Man City prem 5/6,Soton prom. 1/2,Charlton prom.8/15,Cowdenbeath sd2 11/8,Annan sd3 13/8 PSG fr. lge. 1/2

20 pts

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