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Champions League Multiples

Discussion in 'The Glory Hole' started by ThunderCelt, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. ThunderCelt

    ThunderCelt National League Punter

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    Yet another antepost multiples thread, but I thought I'd have a go at the winners in the Champions' League groups - two lots of four bets, and one before each of the six rounds of games. Using real money, but as this is a tentative test small stakes, to win £10. To start:

    Groups A-D, Man Utd, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, 5.5/1, stake £1.55, Paddy
    Groups E-H, Chelsea, Dortmund, Athletic Madrid, Barcelona, 8.85/1, stake £1.02, Paddy
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    Before the second round of games:

    Groups A-D, Man Utd, Real Madrid, PSG, Man City, 6.88/1, stake £1.27, SkyBet
    Groups E-H, Chelsea, Arsenal, Athletic Madrid, Barcelona, 7.53/1, stake £1.18, Bet365

    Stakes one third of the way through £5.02 with the aim of winning £10 on each line (£20 in total)
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    Before the third round of games:

    Groups A-D, Shakhtar, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, 4.49/1, stake £1.83, BetVic
    Groups E-H, Schalke, Arsenal, Athletic Madrid, Barcelona, 4.96/1, stake £1.68, Bwin

    Half way, £8.53 staked with the aim of winning 2 x £10.
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    Before Fourth round of games.

    Groups A-D: I'm starting to hedge rather than do multiples. Hopefully Real and PSG are well set, but I'm prepared to hedge if they wobble or one of the chasing pack puts together a couple of results.

    Group A&D, Shaktar/Man City double, Unibet, 99/1, 10p, returns £10
    Group A Leverkusen single, 4/1, BetVic, £2.00, returns £10.

    Groups A-D £6.75 staked to win £10.

    Still thinking about Groups E-H. :thinking
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    Before Fourth Round of games, Group E-H:

    Groups E&F Shalke/Dortmund double, 8/1, Paddy, £1.12, returns £10.01
    Group F winner Napoli, 7/2, BetVic, £2.23, returns £10.04
    Group H winner Milan, 12/1, BetVic, 77p, returns £10.01.

    Summary, to win two lots of £10:

    Groups A-D £6.75 staked
    Groups E-H £8.00 staked
    Total £14.75 staked.
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    A couple of hedges before the fifth round of games:

    Group C winner Olympiakos, 16/1, Sky, 59p, returns £10.03
    Group E winner Basle, 80/1, Bet365, 13p, returns £10.53

    Summary, to win two lots of £10:

    Groups A-D £7.34 staked
    Groups E-H £8.13 staked
    Total £15.47 staked
  7. ThunderCelt

    ThunderCelt National League Punter

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    Posted 11 September:

    Groups A-D, Man Utd, Real Madrid, PSG, Bayern Munich, 5.5/1, stake £1.55, Paddy

    So, one acca out of two is confirmed. On groups A-D I spent £7.34 on six different bets and returned £10.08, for a profit of £2.74, or more importantly as this is a small-scale test, a yield of 37%. I think I've a guaranteed profit on groups E-H too, but I'll reserve judgement until tomorrow in case there's a freak combination I've missed.
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    Also 11 September:

    Groups E-H, Chelsea, Dortmund, Athletic Madrid, Barcelona, 8.85/1, stake £1.02, Paddy

    £8.13 spent to gain £10.05; 24% yield. The favourites won all eight groups.

    Overall, £15.47 staked, £20.08 returned. That's a 30% yield overall. I suspect this isn't a big enough test to prove multiples are a success, but it seems very well worth continuing to experiment.
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  9. Colbro

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    Good thread TC. Interesting ideas shown here.
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    Do you know the individual odds each team were to win their leagues?

    So far I've assumed evens which would mean you received a lower return had you just done singles and without the cover.

    If so you would appear to have backed up the ideas hotspur was trying to outline before
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    Thanks Colbro

    No, I didn't keep a record of individual odds, although with hindsight I wish I had done. I think most - the Spanish clubs, PSG and Chelsea were significantly shorter than evens.

    And yes, this was inspired by hotspur :zhail
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  13. ThunderCelt

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    Ta. I'll stick 'em in my spreadsheet. :thumb
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    Nice yield, TC :thumb

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