Anyhow I've researched it once before and did rather well so I thought and left it at that always intending to go back to it, I did it mainly using the ancestory uk website when I got a years subscription on the cheap. It must be 8yrs or more since I last looked at it, then the other week I was talking to a sister in-law who wanted to do her family tree and didn't know how to go about it, so I took up the reins again offering to help her. Rather than going to the ancestory uk website, I decided to try findmypast because it also has Irish records which is where I got stuck last time around. So I imported my tree into that website, after a few days trying to pick up from where I left off I decided to just start from scratch again, I'm glad I did because it turns out my original tree is way off the mark. I think it's because the findmypast website is a lot more usually friendly or maybe it's just that I have more patience, either way I've took some branches of the tree back a few more generations when I thought I had hit a brick wall on ancestoryuk, plus some branches were completely wrong familys. Anybody else ever delved into their past?