Is Phil Jones the next Michael Dawson?

Yeh, don't get me wrong Slick, I wouldn't expect him to come back from injury and for him to turn the team around. You're right, he can't carry that pressure on his young shoulders. It's not fair. But it just suddenly struck me the other day when I was wondering what had happened since those first few games and his injury does seem to have been the turning point.

Also, when he does come back, he'll be coming back to a very different team with all the injuries, lack of confidence, etc.

That's probably the most sensible post of yours I've ever read Wayne. Makes sense.

I've never understood the criticism of Chelsea and City because they are the neuvau riche and are buying titles when (as you say) United have whored themselves around the far east and America and spent millions winning titles but just over a longer period of time. Doesn't make sense.

Let me think then hmmm United are 2/1 to win the league in numerous places and ive said we will win by at least 3 points so i would be looking for around 3.20 for the bet so id give odds off 1.30 is that correct? Fuck knows but id be looking for 3.20

It's like most football banter though isn't it. It just becomes a 'weapon' to use to ridicule another club, regardless of whether it's factually correct or even matters. Bit like saying all United fans are gloryhunters.

good win for the lads today cuts it back to 2 points any takers then if you think im talking out my arse again?

No thought not as Utd will win by 3 points at least

Yorkie, Have you got the wrong result.....Leeds drew away to Watford today??

eh?

Oh maybe I am wrong then, Just thought you were Yorkie as you were from Yorkshire therefore you were referring to Leeds United. I follow Man Utd as I support my my local club, local club, local club!

Yes im Yorkie i was born in Manchester but moved to Doncaster when i was young and lived in Sussex + Grimsby over last 10 years so Local club i supported and used to go and watch them with my dad near enough every home match until i moved down here so i do support my local club in a sense but moved away as most people do in life you move to have a better life and circumstances which you have no way's of stopping.

Pikeys would do less moving around .......are you a Pikey? if so I can make d rioten big to help you read it

Moved from Manchester to Donny when my dad started a new job den Donny to Croydon when they got divorced, then Croydon to Wallington as it was only temp at my uncle's until we bought a flat.Then Wallington to Horsham when my mum met my step dad and then i moved to Grimsby and then back down Think thats all ive also lived temp in Sutton, Steyning, Crawley, Victoria, Clapham, Hull, Sheffield and Swinton Went to 9 different schools as well man ive moved alot

Oh and lived in Mexborough as well

Just for the record 4th January 2012. The first time Fergie trusts Jones in his rightful place in the back four. Two minutes into the second half, Jones brings down a Newcastle player by bizarrely trying to tackle using his arse. Newcastle score from the free kick.

In the interest of balance, Jones has been solid since he gave the free kick away that led to the goal.

Needs to be aware of shooting his mouth off at the ref though - on a yellow card. Not a good habit to get into

WHAT THE FUCKING HELL WAS THAT?

Missed it as i was typing on here he's going to be a star give him two years

Bit harsh Yorkie. Granted it was one of the worst efforts I've ever seen for a Premiership footballer trying to control a football but prison is a bit harsh for him.