This guy (Stinson Hunter) started appearing on Facebook around a year ago, I very nearly started a thread on here about him back then to see what other Betnod members thought of his methods, but then decided against it as it was long odds-on that no fucker would bother to reply (General Chat was even quieter then than it is now (hard to believe, I know) - the only thread being posted on was the one involving SteveUK (RIP)). Anyway, basically what this guy does is he goes in to online chatrooms posing as a young underage girl/boy and when the dirty paedos befriend them and then turn up at their homes for a bit of lolita action, he jumps out with his video camera to catch them. Written like that, it sounds like a good job done, the more nonces exposed the better, the safer our kids are. Except, the reality is quite a bit different... First of all, and perhaps crucially to the morality of his methods, these 'sting' operations do not take place in 'teen' chatrooms (you know, where kids tend to hang out) but on 18+ Adult Only dating sites like Plenty of Fish etc (you know, for adults). So these men who he is targeting are NOT ACTIVELY looking for kids to groom, but looking for adult companionships/adult sex. This is the main bone of contention I have here. What he then does is start chatting with these guys under the guise of a pretty girl (he uses a photo of an 18+ year old for his profile pic and puts 'her' age as 18+), and when the 'mark', no doubt immensely flattered by the attention of a sexy young girl, responds and starts chatting away, the snare begins. Stinson Hunter always drops in to the conversation along the way that 'she' is, in fact, only 15/14/13/12 etc and that 'no doubt that will put you off'. Of course, any rationally thinking man should, at this point, say "it's been nice chatting but you're too young and really shouldn't be on here, bye", and no doubt many do (we don't hear about them and SH doesn't tell the ratio of success and failure) but some carry on the conversation regardless. Some of these lead to the mark saying obscene things and sending naked pics etc and some even go as far as arranging a meet, obviously with sex in mind. The meetings/confrontations are filmed and uploaded to youtube and facebook, and the chats/photos/video handed over to the police. Now, I'm not saying these guys haven't done anything wrong, they obviously have (especially the dirty fuckers who turn up with presents and condoms thinking they're going to take away a prepubescent's virginity) and I certainly don't feel sorry for them at all, BUT, it does seem like SH is going after the wrong type, taking the easy option. Not to mention the murky legality of the honeytrap (apparantly it's only illegal if the police do it). As I've said, every single one of these blokes has signed up to an ADULT dating site, so there is no evidence whatsoever that they are a predatory paedophile. Yes, they are almost certainly sad, pathetic and desperate individuals but being in that state of mind you are obviously going to be more susceptible to temptation. Had SH not created these fake accounts, would any underage child have been targetted by these men? Would any have been sexually assaulted? You would have to say probably not. If Stinson Hunter REALLY wants to save kids from being abused, why doesn't he target the real dangerous predators who deliberately target and groom young kids by going in to teen chatrooms or on facebook posing as young teens themselves, or, dare I say (and run the risk of being arrested for using words intended or likely to stir up racial hatred), the pakistani paedo gangs in the midlands? Another thing which bothered me about SH is that early on in his crusade he seemed to let his guard drop - he posted on facebook something along the lines of "I have another video here of a guy who arrived thinking he was meeting a 14 year old girl - if this status gets 100 likes then I'll post it". Now, if this was all about protecting kids then what should it matter how many likes his facebook post got? It's not a fucking competition with internet celebrity as the main prize. He also posts the videos non-censored, exposing the faces, names and areas where the guys live, before they have even been arrested let alone found guilty in a court of law. We all know how dangerous vigilantism is and doing this is putting innocent people (the guy's families) at risk. One bloke killed himself last year after being caught and exposed by SH. Rather predictably, he has a large following on facebook, and each of his posts have the usual mob mentality replies. Anyone who suggests his methods might be morally and/or legally dubious are set upon and accused of being pro-paedophilia. The police have decided they want him to stop doing what he is doing, although they seemed willing to help until one of their own got caught (he didn't get charged, surprise surprise). The programme tonight will be interesting.