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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by kompressaur, Jan 4, 2015.

  1. AnothrSpacecat

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    now I'm sat in work reading about Google treemaps instead of working. My computers is saying I have 8 notifications I need to deal with and at 12 ive to go schmoozing students, the internet has destroyed me over and over and it could end up costing me my job one day lol.

    2 weeks ago it was Inverness -1 away to Hamilton, last week it was Elgin away to Berwick and this week it'll be Peterhead at Forfar if the games on. That decision on Peterhead took me 5 minutes and will probably do more for my life than 100 hours of learning how to built interactive charts.
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    To tell you the trruth Spacecat the best advice i can give you is forget all about websites and the like and just enjoy your life. It destroys folks. I wish i had never got involved 'that side' of things. I used to be be quite outgoing before it all. The most saleable product you can create spacecat is 'AnothrSpacecat'. No one will ever be able to take that away from you.

    I cant see your last post spacecat as im on the next page. punterslife.com im gonna keep. Its a bit more generic than other betting website names i could have. In fact i aint gonna talk websites spacecat as they are just dull dull dull.

    Ive been working on a 'betcast' last week or so. Friday night betting show set in a fictional betting forum. Betting talk (with only ME phoning in) and the ongoing 'silly little things' that people used to, still might, fall out with online. I'll shut up about that too till i actually do anything with it.

    If you want to make a 'technical' website spacecat then i would suggest you try and get someone 'technical' to partner in with you. You can work your balls off posting and promoting and they should be able to make you anything you want. then you'll have a chance. Probably a good chance at that. gl
  3. AnothrSpacecat

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    you should just play poker on twitch all day, I've no idea why but people tune into that stuff. you've got a million poker books in you, would be a decent platform to teach people. you could use it to go live with the friday night betting talk too, although calling in yourself live might take some doing.

    I've no idea what my internet future has in store but the working thing is quickly running its course so I need to do something if I end up with 45 hours s week free.
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    It takes me 50 fucking efforts to log in to this cunting website and they've never fixed it. BRILLIANT!

    Was just saying to Teezo (Burt) Komp.. at the end when you start playing the ukulele, I well up like a fucking GAY BABY. I find that really emotional. Spar staff are fucking brilliant eh? lol
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    If your aanything like me spacecat then even if you find something that takes you away from the toil of work it will just create a new set of problems for you to 'worry' about. I try to enjoy the moment but alas my new found spirituality of a few years ago is long gone. the universe doesn't care about you or me. Nothing is real bar 'this moment' There is no future and no past. Just right now. I at least have this knowledge and it changes how i interact with folks. I make time for my family as that time is precious and we'll never get it back thats for sure. I dont care for money as i dont drink or smoke these days and my soupmaker seems to only cost about a fiver a week for 4 bowls of hot piping homemade soup a day. I dont care to have 'tthe best betting website on the net' no more. I ddont care for studying poker no more as i just don't have the temprement to be a winner at the game. Im still prone to losing 500 quid in 2hours playing the slots. Win or lose its all the same to me. at least for that 2hrs im happy. Man i wish i had enough money to play the slots all day every day forever. Suppose im just suspending the emotions.

    I like teaching folks things ive learnt spacecat. youve probably guessed that by now lol I just want folks to have the same 'ah hah' moments that i had. unknown unknows are hard to get through to people though. It just frustrates me eventually.

    Aye try and be happy with your now spacecat. you know all this already but im gonna preach on at you. My mum used to mock me by cutting me short by saying 'im gonna im gonna' I think thats how i used to go on. Now i turn up at hers and i dont complain about the bus service or having no heating as basically everything is my doing. Knowing this has made me more fun to be around. quantum physics snippets are still banned mind. Suppose its just you and me on betnod that finds the collapse of the wave function so mind blowing. Ive a load of good vids to bore you with in time spacecat. If only i could find a pretty lady to 'facinate' with my quantum physic knowledge talk. I wish i had a life. dont know where to start anymore. good guys on death row huh?
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    lol thats really cheered me up mick thanks. I must be an emotional retard as im welling up like a baby now too. Fuck we had so many dreams back then. So much to get done. I know most of what i was trying to grasp back then and now it all means nothing. I need to start interacting with people. fuck im still prone to starting a website instead of searching google to see if one already exists. I just cant interact with the web. I havent visted 'my favourites' for more than a year. I dont browse. ach im being boring now. I might go do a 'oi oi look what komp likes online today' thread like i used to do. Nah its all meaningless. I HATE ALL WEBSITES. there's not one that gives gives gives and doesnt take. Big fuck off flash banners or slow loading wordpress websites all made with no imagination nor concern for those that might frequent it. The internet is a disease and folks seem happy enouggh being spoonfed whats dished up to them.

    Spacecat what sort of website do you want to make? I'll help you and i want 0% share. I'll get you up to speed in 3 months what took me 8 years to learn from the bastards that dont want to give. If you havent studied computer science at school and fully conversant in html, css and java then your getting no help from anyone as you are supposed to suffer, as they did. No god passes given out. You have to lose your friends and mind if you want to do anything usefull website wise it seems.
  7. AnothrSpacecat

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    I'll give the offer of help some thought, I can pay you for it too as I doubt I'll find a cheaper developer online even in places like pakistan.

    I had all sorts of spiritual goals and beliefs once upon a time too, I had an answer for everything at one point. Sadly I ruined my life by realising that you're right in saying there's no end goal or consequence to our actions. Its all about the now, we might be non-existant pixels but we can be happy meaningless/non existent beings within the confinement of the grid, we need to 'make the best of it' is about how I now sum things up. For o'er 30 years I've made a real cunt of it, I'm trying the working thing again but I know that any chance I have of salvaging something of my life probably lies online.

    That's my train pulling in. Willgive the offer some thought if you're serious.
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    Dont get me wrong spacecat i probably only know about 25% of what you'd need to know. Let me think of my 'web-buildding strengths and weaknesses'.....

    STRENGTHS
    - I'd know the best way to do things although i wont know how to do them things. Im good for pointing you in the right direction although the path that i suggest might be a bloody hard path but at least you wont be like me and follow a million wrong paths.

    thats about it. I know what you 'shouldnt be doing' with respect to future technology and scalibilty. All i can do is ...bah im just an online asshole who after 9 years of trying to make a website has failed so many times along the way. Now i dont even pretend i can do owt with websites but i do have a lot of experience in failure.

    All i ddo know though spacecat is that likee doing anything thats 'interesting' is that it takes a lot of time and devotion. Its like learning the guitar or piano. You have to really want to succede at it to succede. You will defo need to have a passion for it. That said novel ideas go a long way too but dont, like me, get dragged down by the intrinsics off it wwhilst you lose everything else that you used to be good at.

    ps that stocks and shares site just makes itself look good by having pop up charts etc. I bet its just one guy that updates it all daily to make it look good and if so he does a good job at it. People are eeasily impressed. Dont feel that you cant 'easily impress' people yourself spacecat. its not rocket science.

    Tell us 4 or 5 key points of what you want to 'make' and ill get back to you.
  9. AnothrSpacecat

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    I'm sorry man, I'm shelving all online ambitions again until I'm unemployed, works slaughtering me and I have to put 100% of myself in to it. I'll be done working in the summer I suspect when I have a nervous breakdown but will have a load of cash to show for it, I'm clearing 2500 a month almost and even that's with fucking up loads of things, I could do better.
  10. kompressaur

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    Good stuff spacecat. A wet man has no fear from the rain. Not really related to anything mentioned but i kinda thought of that stock share site place when i looked at this drupal module that creates an effect you could want from a very powerfull bit of standard drupal data representaion
    http://ajax-form-entity.emerya.com/views-popup-integration

    2.5k a month is hard to give up without a bit of a plan although i walked out on a 1.5k a month job in 1989 for no other reason barr my love of lying in bed smoking dope.

    I was thinking of you the other day btw spacecat. I decided to post on Reddit's betting 'bits' and it was full of folks who thought they could make a buck from 'algorithmic betting' or whatever its called. Im all for folks making 'models' but these cunts have been misguided into thinking that its a 'god pass' to making loads of bucks. I had a read up on it all and it seemed like the sort of thing you would be into. I aint saying they wont make money at it but then again anyone can play the guitar and not many of them will make a living from it. Home made Algorithimm v expensive bookie/pro gambler algorithim. Just dont tell them theyre deluding themselves. Aye its a yank attack.
  11. AnothrSpacecat

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    5 months ago when I first started I was getting a flat rate of about half that per month and now the rest is made up in commission. In a round about way the failing at websites and gambling has helped me as although I'm a keen amateur, all the other people I work with have no technical knowledge at all and have approached recruiting for tech support or even developer positions using the same process theyd use for recruiting foreigners to warehouse jobs.

    Before I started doing it, they'd always ask a candidate to bring a record of what theyve done in the past but treated it like previous employment, theyd ask questions like 'how many hours per week did you spend on this project?' as a substitute for 'how many hours per week did you work on your job?'. A lot of the guys we have applying for junior level positions have had shitty real-life experience like working in bookies or call centers but have produced really interesting web or phone apps, the other recruitment folk I work with have been really dismissive of candidates purely because they spent 2 years working in some shitty hotel no matter what they worked on in their spare time. For me I straight away want to see their portfolios and with even my limited knowledge I can tell straight away that something theyve done with ease would be hard as fuck and they'd be a great person to put forward for a job, if somebodies done something impressive technically I don't give a fuck if they've only worked at KFC, its really helped me get ahead of the folk I work with.

    The gambling thing or rather working in the bookies experience has helped too, I can make a read on somebody being a bullshitter or a dosser straight away, the sort of folk you'd listen to go on about how many thousands they won ooff an accumulator 4 years ago in the bookies. The other guys I work with are all straight out of university or college and don't have any experience dealing with the retards in society and can be a bit naive.

    I enjoy the work once I'm there and I enjoy traveling about trying to find new companies that will pay me to hire staff for them but when I'm off the clock and starring at myself in the mirror at night, all I can do is tell myself its all a facade and it isnt for me. Even though I'm earning more money than I did than even in my mid-20's heyday it doesnt feel like its worth it for what I've given up in time.

    The sad truth is that the last time I worked this hard I ended up having a nervous breakdown and sleeping rough, the even sadder truth is that during times when I've had loads of spare cash and time I still havent managed to gamble or build my way into living a sustainable life. So I go in to work every day pissed off at myself for being there but know full well I have nothing else to contribute to the world in a manner I might get paid by. I'm a really good employee but I can't handle it lol. Theres also the pressure of knowing that this job is truly my last chance of ever earning a livable wage due to my lack of decent experience or qualifications, so I know that if I chucked it for a lie in every day then I could be fucked for decades.

    I've no idea what the future holds but it winds me up theres no escape plan. Even as a side project I don't think I could handle trying to do anything online, all I'd be doing is going over old ground thats got me fuck all in life so far. Sadly your pals on Reddit will find out the hard way that its virtually impossible to come up with a 'system' to beat the books, theres a million methods that almost do it but none that tip you over the edge into regular profit, markets everywhere are too efficient and taking advantage of price boosts/offers from the books will only last a few weeks before they cut you off. Theres very few ways to make money gambling besides having an online casino or offering horrendous in-shop prices to old men, even those ways are squeezed to fuck with competition.

    Some of the work I've done with bet angel and spreadsheets would blow the minds of even the most hardened city traders. I cant even comprehend how I did most of it now, pulling data on the fly from various sites, the processes I'd put it all through, working with pulling data from API's, running all sorts of metrics criteria on it, sending it back out etc. I wouldnt have a clue where to start now but I've been through it all in the past, the money to be made from these people is in writing the software that end users have to kill themselves trying to learn lol.

    With all these people looking for the holy grail as it used to be called on the betfair forums, the money in gambling will probably be made by selling them maps and drip feeding them the promise of a new life, I truly feel bad for the folk on these sites I still read from time to time (admittedly not reddit but I'll have a look). Online poker is one thing I'm nowhere near skilled enough to even joke about trying, the people who make regular money on there are doing it off rakebacks arent they? Playing 40 tables a time for 8 hours a day etc lol... I'd rather go get people real jobs for money
  12. kompressaur

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    Aye that would be cash players Spacecat. Truth be told i think all that rakeback bollocks is just another thing that your avg yank would think will let him live the american dream whilst the reality is it's those that can play the game at higher stakes to make it even half bothering with just ..ach i dunno. The only thing i know is to make money at poker is to read from the same books as the good players have so as you can then counter act. If you dont know what their up to you'll just think it was all to do with not getting good cards (yawn etc etc)

    I think there maybe more to this 'logarithm betting' than what you know spacecat. It was all new to me but i spent a few hours reading up on it out of interest as im into Baysian logic and betting and i can see the appeal of creating a 'model'. I can see the appeal but i cant see how they hope to win anything at it. I cant see how anyone with no real interest in what their backing can take on the bookies algorithims that they use to update live odds etc

    Ive been posting in here btw Spacecat. this is what your up against.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/SoccerBetting/comments/2wgxcw/basic_sports_betting_guide/

    You might see me elsewhere in there. I dont think theyre quite ready for a cider driven komp who is trying to pluck up courage to contact his son.bah anyhow...

    You sound like your ontop of things Spacecat. I know its easy for me to say but im jealous of your lifestyle. Your out and about and who knows whats round the next corner for you. your certainly keeping your options open. Just keep having ideas and be glad that your unrest is only there as you know that theres so many other possibile paths etc Some folks dont have ideas above their station. Ignorance might be bliss.

    lol im glad you might have failed at websites spacecat as from what you say about work putting you over the edge you dont want the life youd have to have if you was to do anything website wise bar having a blog. You stop thinking in pictures and start relating to your life in code. Your bones become html and your clothes are css etc it will never be worth it.

    That all sid if you had a simple blog spacecat i would find it hard not to pay it a dail visit to see what your saying. Just being you is your biggest assest and noone can do it better.

    I cant stop Spacecat. I have to write my boy a letter that explains me better to him. 21yrs he waited for me and i dissowned him almost instanltly as i couldnt face up to having to try and ...ach i dunno. arrrrghhh its sending me mad. all day every day since nov ive been like this. it needs to stop.
  13. AnothrSpacecat

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    Without wanting to sound like a smart arse, those reddit boys sound like me 7 years ago, that's playground stuff they're talking about on there.

    Avoid low odds at all costs? lol

    Ok, I'll give you 1/3 that Real Madrid score at least one more home goal this year, how much do you want on it? Are you going to say no thanks because the odds are 'short'?

    This has been my mantra on football betting for years but its the most random sport to predict for one obvious fundemental reason, it only takes one point to change the outcome of a result and there are several un-predictable random factors that can lead to that one point being scored. No stat or form line, no number of hours studying videos or tactics, no tipster etc can predict if the ref will make a mistake that will lead to the one point required to change a game. In other team sports like Basketball, the NFL, Rugby etc it takes multiple points to win or lose a match, any one random event will not change the outcome or more importanlty the course of a game. As well as the refs making a mistake, individual moments of retardedness or exceptional skill can lead to a point that changes the game.

    The example I always give is comparing tennis and football, years ago when I first started talking about the flaws in footballthere was a weekend where examples of amazing skill took place in each sport. Messi went and skinned a load of players for Barca and slotted it under the keeper for a 1-0 win, in the tennis Roger Federrer hit a shot running backwards under his legs to win a point, both exceptional pieces of skill. The goal in the football was enough to change the game and the tennis shot was 1 of the 70+ points required to win a grand slam match.

    I keep saying the course of a game as in-play betting is the only arena where its possible to find and back value. For all the form reading in the world, the game changes after the first goal in a football match like in no other sport and thats when the markets become inefficient. Tactics change in running, defenders change their line, players press more or sit back, teams switch to playing wider or close in and get tight, the game people were betitng on pre match is gone and the match theyre betting on lasts until the next goal/red card or full time.

    A book these people need to read and understand is the Wisdom of Crowds,I cant really go into much detail just now as I'm in work but everything they need to know about making markets starts from there.

    If you arent ending up with a fully modelled market that can adjust to in-play events then you might aswell be punting on both teams to score accys and keeping your fingers crossed.

    I really am too busy to be sat on this site, I havent even watched the highlights of last nights cricket yet lol. England got smashed to fucking bits.

    When I get home later I'll have a look at some of the topics on there as I'm sure I can help people but they might not like what I have to say. If I had access to all my old posts on the betfair forum it would make life easier with cut and paste.
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    The more I read on there, the more painful it becomes.

    The closest I've come to winning long term on the footbal lwas on over/under 2.5 goals. I made up a load of spreadhseets that would tell me all sorts of pointless crap and when the prices were right I'd back something.

    Working out the number of goals expected in a match is one thing, predicting what the price should be after goal 1, goal 2 or goal 3+ is another totally.

    Even in over/under goals the range of prices as a % is fucking enormous. If you predict theres going to be 3.0 goals in a game then your odds for o2.5 will be 1.83 and if you think there will be only 2 then the odds should be 2.25. Of course when your doing any stats based betting you're going to have predictions like 2.4 or 2.6 goals (odds 2.04 or 1.96) etc and all of that becomes null and void depending on what happens in play pretty quickly.

    If all these folk put their brainpower towards studying another sport that isnt so radically altered by unpredictable events like a football match, I think theyd see a far greater return for their efforts.
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    It is possible to make money gambling, dont get me wrong, just not systematically.

    As you have always said in the past about scottish football betting, the bookies arent looking at the same info you are when making a bet, the bookies dont care how one team performed over another in a match report opposed to the stats.

    In play you can see a team pushing up a high line and playing open football, backing the other team to score might look like a gobshites bet to a stats man but on the park you can see theyve the pace to get in behind, no model can tell you that scenario is going to fall into place.
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    I've been tinkering again but theres no point, acquiring new users is too hard, the most success I've had in the past was the cryptocurrency begging website I had a couple of years ago and that wa sonly for 3 months when the bitcoin price went up about 1000%.

    Sadly gambling websites have pretty much had their day, theres virtually no gambling product out there the people want that they dont already have. The number of users using apps like the livescore app (http://www.thelivescoreapp.com) for chat must dwarf every single online forum combined and that app isnt even on the google store or itunes, I use it myself dozens of times a day but never post anything online, even when I'm sitting infront of the computer lol.

    I'm in dire need of new ideas. Something gambling related for sure but I have zero idea what, to me its all being done by far more skilled and richer people than myself.
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    Without reading up spacecat the only thing we have worth anything in this information ag is our willingness to provide information. Thats worth more than any wasted hours trying to make an online home for ourselves. Youve got a problem if you don't think you can make a living off this easy pleased net imo. Just keep being you and it will all fall into place. Just dont get caught up with other people's ideas to the point that it becomes unbeneficial by the worst you.

    The beauty is spacers the internet betting website owning folks are fucking ifiots although they hat to be told that. Theyve devised a web of shit. Al you need to do is your own thing and expect nothing from anyone and your onto a winner. My biggest problem was letting half made websites open to the public. Still life is just a big barrell of mistakes. Knowing this is key. Dealing with the past is another thing.
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    I like reading about lower league football. The bookies like offering odds. I hate 'the man'. All in it means i have a healthy interest that keeps me good and keeps me spawning. If it wasnt for betting and websites i might have become a seedy cunt looking for anyone that will let me shed my load over them. hurrah for lower league football interest. Hurrah for anything that makes me have a wank free day. Hurrah for komp.
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    Have you decided what punters life is going to be yet?

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