Antepost Soccer Betting/35% r.o.i

rcgills,-If you are discounting things like betting on Fleetwood then YES,its quite POSSIBLE that people wouldnt have made 10%.
It would have been nigh on impossible to give actual stakes to bet cos most people dont want to do a long-term bet in August.

Lets try to make this easier-IF you do not believe that people would have made a 10% profit from the advice I gave on the DP,then,because I believe you to be fair,I will not argue the point.
What I would ask is that you at least believe me when I say that I was(and I guess still am) GENUINELY under that impression.

As far as this "gambling is easy" statement that I made ie "I can make 10% roi in my sleep",I would like to say that I believe I have TRIED to apologise for that and,since rcgills can read the DP could I PLEASE ask him to post on here the conversation I had with,I THINK-not sure,someone called punter/or similar in which I try to inform a newbie that soccer betting is hard...and whoever it was(actually sorry,it COULDNT have been punter) actually says that they make 15% roi,and that they find it EASY and I reply,
"wow,15% makes you one of the best"

I realise youre busy rcgills but its very relevant

If it helps,I hotspur,hearby do state on betnod....that making a profit from football betting IS NOT EASY

Wayne brings up the £15,000 thing and so I would like to ADD 2 things to my "defence"which I didnt mention at the time.

Wayne accepts that I was defending LMC tipster.great.BUT I was also defending Victor Chandler!!
All I ever read on the internet is how VC bans everyone but he didnt ban me and I am grateful.
Wayne said that I should have just said "I made a profit from VC and he didnt ban me"!

But I wouldve felt like I was insulting your intelligence if I wrote that!SURELY noone on betnod thinks that VC wouldve banned EVERYONE making ANY profit?
It seemed to me entirely necessary to post the amount.
But also,I had ALREADY,and ODM might somehow remember this cos he replied,stated on another thread that,at the end of the season I needed to hedge an antepost acca and it so happened that VC were the best price(on Wigan to win at Stoke)so I bet quite a lot on Wigan..but I was also busy with other bets so I got a friend to place some bets.......and,even though my friend won less money HE got banned...and I didnt!!(actually that STILL makes me laugh!
The point is that I only won on VC cos another bet lost.I didnt even want to win on VC but I had already mentioned the UNUSUAL circumstances so didnt think twice about subsequently mentioning the amount.

OMG rcgills the reason I didnt back Napoli is that,BELIEVE IT OR NOT,I was attempting to "give it"to someone who needed the money more!
If you dont believe that,then also I knew the company would only take a small amount at those odds and ALSO I sort of specailise in accas

Okie Dokie rcgills,no problem.

I have already made it clear that I wont be claiming to have any kind of gambling ability on betnod from now on.(after this post hopefully!)

There isnt really much more to be said I think youll agree.

I would like to make a kind of general remark,
sometimes people say what they think a pro gambler would or would not do.
I only know what I do,I have already explained that the reason that I frequent forums is because a (small)part of the book I am trying to write is about gambling forums.

Any other thing that I do that,apparently,is weird/not done/suspicious etc is I guess,as was stated/implied down to my character.What can I say!?

THANKS for not mentioning how pathetic I am and I apologise sincerely that I was unable to prove myself on here when I had the chance.

btw,I suspect that my bets on this thread will probably LOSE........but what do I know

Good Luck everyone

NO rcgills,NO ,I really was trying to HELP someone else.

Well they are 2 very different things rcgills.
You see the reason that I (claim)to be able to make more than 15% is because,

a) I am doing antepost bets rather than betting on results/goals etc

b) I am multiplying my edge by the judicious use of accumulators

accumulators are notoriously difficult to profit from on actual games but not necessarily on antepost bets...as Wayne has shown

rcgills please can you tell me why you have such a hard time believing that?are you SO cynical.

IT IS TRUE,I ABSOLUTELY PROMISE YOU

well if someone wants to suggest that its a sign of arrogance that I assumed they needed the money more,then I guess the next time I wont leave it.
I spose thats partly why we live in such a shitty world

Well rcgills,forgive me for pointing out that pro gamblers are the kind of people who usually find themselves in the minority.
As far as I remember,I actually say that I am leaving the bet for someone in the morning.
If you are telling me that most betnod members cant work out the implications of that,then I dont know what to say.

First of all,if I dont specify an roi,I believe fewer people would actually do the bets.
I dont want to explain that if thats ok but,anyway,its not the most important reason.

The main reason for specifying the roi before I start is because I am doing accumulator bets.
And the problem with using accumulators is that it can appear as if you are lucky when you win.
I have been doing these bets for 14 years and almost every time,by their very nature,they go to the wire and,in particular,only 1 wins big.
And this big win will almost always "come in" on the last game.
But if you have said you are gonna make x% and thats what you get near enough,then it suggests that you may well have known what you were doing.

I forgot the question about doing the Napoli bet myself and giving the money to charity.

I must admit,I find the question a bit bemusing-"would I have been better off.....etc"
I confess I am stumped.

I guess I have to admit that I tend to do whatevers easiest rcgills-but my charity of choice wouldve been compassion in world farming so I guess no person wouldve been better off.