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Seen v Marc - horses week 1

Discussion in 'Betnod v Letsbet Interforum challenge the return.' started by swooperman, Jan 28, 2012.

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  1. Seen

    Seen Moderator

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    BET 6
    2.55 Ling - RODEAN
    3.50 Wolves - REI D'ORO
    6.20 Dund - ATMOSPHERIC HIGH
    2pt trixie
  2. ONEDUNME

    ONEDUNME Administrator

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    2 up, 1 to go, Good luck Seen:thumb
  3. swooperman

    swooperman Resident nob

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    3rd unlucky Seen. Good picks
  4. Marc

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    10 pt win double on the last and 2nd last at Dundalk.

    General bunching and gort na mona
  5. ONEDUNME

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    Bad news for you Mark - I'm afraid I've backed both of those. Oh well. Sorry mate
  6. Marc

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    10 pts each way Norah Starr - 3.10 Fairyhouse

    That's me done and dusted this week, had a few close calls but if this doesn't at least place I will probably get beat.
  7. Seen

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    BET 6
    2.55 Ling - RODEAN - WON 4/7
    3.50 Wolves - REI D'ORO - WON evens
    6.20 Dund - ATMOSPHERIC HIGH - 3rd 11/4
    2pt trixie

    bet profit = 4.29
    total profit = 15.26
    bank remaining = 48pts

    ~~~~~~

    It's been a long time since I've studied an all-weather card and, after analysing the first 3 races at Lingfield I hope it's a long time til I do so again :help

    If Marc's Norah Starr wins I'm in big trouble but in with a shout if it doesn't, although I still need points on the board.

    12.55 Ling - MONADREEN DANCER - 5pts win
    1.25 Ling - TUXEDO - 5pts win
    2.00 Ling - CUT THE CACKLE - 7pts win

    also

    1.5pt trixie

    1.25 Ling - TUXEDO
    2.00 Ling - CAPTAIN DIMITRIOS
    2.5pts ew double

    bank remaining = 20pts
  8. swooperman

    swooperman Resident nob

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    And?....and?....AND?
  9. swooperman

    swooperman Resident nob

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    Close with Tuxedo :ohwell
  10. Seen

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    CUT THE CACKLE - 7pts win

    won @ 3/1 for 21pts profit

    I think the standings are 36.26 - 26 to me, Marc needs his selection to win as a place won't be enough (unless it drifts badly from 9/2 out to 9/1 or bigger. If it wins I need to make approx 50 pts profit from my last 20 pts, depending on the SP of Marc's pick. Looking at it's form I think it'll run a big race, I might stick a tenner on it, that'll stop the fucker winning :lol
  11. swooperman

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    Nice one seen :thumb come & join me in the potential winners cupboard....didnt seem much point in hiring a room :unsure Theres plenty of space, Beamer left in a hurry...keep your hands to yourself though :unsure
  12. traeth

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    I've used this tactic today , my opponent is on Everton , which was one I was considering , so I've had a few quid on the toffees
  13. Marc

    Marc New Member

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    38.5 - 36.26 to me, you've 20 points left so you'll surely find something to win.
  14. Seen

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    I make it that you're on 28.5, as the profit from 10pts ew on a placed 5/4 shot (1/4 odds) is 2.25, I think you've included the place stake?
  15. ONEDUNME

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    You're wrong Seen, the return from the place is 12.5 pts
  16. Seen

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    It wasn't a place bet though, it was an ew bet.

    In that case I've worked out my 2nd bet wrongly...

    There's an extra 5pts to add to my score, so I'm leading 41.26 - 38.5





  17. ONEDUNME

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    Fair enough mate.
  18. beamer

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    I know how your calculation is worked out ODM, but I've avoided e/w bets all week as they don't give any return once the win part is deducted.

    I think Seen needs to go the the European Court Of Human Rights or even IBAS.
  19. swooperman

    swooperman Resident nob

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    :thinking
  20. ONEDUNME

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    The win bet is the win bet and the place bet is the place bet.

    An ew bet at 4/1 if placed at 1/4 odds would return you for the win (obviously) and 10pts for the place. In the real world you would then get your £10 place stake back making £20 but we don't get that back for this comp'

    I see what you're saying in that you put 20pts on and return 20pts in the above instance so you haven't gained anything but that's not how it works. If you put £20 with a free bet, you would find your account credited by £10 for the place
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