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ANTE-POST Ante Post Betting 2020/2021

Punter

Punter

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PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills

Reasoning: I think only Arsenal have been in the top flight in English football longer than Everton. The blue noses have flirted with relegation a few times in recent years (at some point in the season) and despite getting Ancelotti on board i've a feeling they could be leaving the top flight for the first time since being promoted in 1954.
It's not a big bet that i want to pile into but there's a chance. Without knowing of any dealings in the transfer market i think 25/1 is worth taking at this point.

Recent seasons is the starting point. Strugglers for a while now.

They rely on too many youngsters and have the worst goalkeeper in the league.

An old out dated stadium, being left behind with some of the grounds that are about these days. Promoted clubs Leeds and WBA have better grounds. You may think WTF has a ground got to do with it, but i can tell you as a Red, that the new stand and the redevelopment of Anfield has made a huge difference to us. With a capacity of just 44,000 it was beginning to feel like we were no longer a big club. We were standing still.
And Evertons plans for a new stadium down the docks just seems like a bullshit pipe dream at present.

I also think about when when Utd won the prem for the first time in 26? 27? yrs in 1992. While they started dominating their City rivals started struggling and were relegated in 96 (Sorry to have to mention that Slick) :lookaround
Maybe there's a comparison there as Liverpool have started lifting trophies again.

Maybe their time is up. One of the longest serving teams in top flight English football are about to be relegated.
A similar situation to what happened to Hamburg in the Bundesliga, the season before last.
 
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Adding Salford for a bet in League Two
Finished 11th last season, 19pts off the leaders. I expected better of them but they could barely win back to back games. I'm expecting better this time around. They are funded well enough, have bought in some good experience from around the lower leagues and should be thereabouts at the end of the season.

PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills

LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
 
I'd like to have started with a decent size bet (by my small standards) in the Championship but there are no odds for the market in mind just yet. But there is one that i'm really keen on, that's coming soon. Assuming the odds represent my idea of value.
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The Championship odds for relegation are up and the bet i was looking for is there.
Bournemouth to be relegated. I find it unbelievable that bookies have them 4th favourites for promotion.

Howe has gone, so has Fraser, Ake and so have both club captain Simon Francis and vice captain Andrew Surman.
Brilliant young goalkeeper and fans player of the season Aaron Ramsdale has agreed terms with Sheffield Utd in an 18.5M deal, too.

They may well have a season or two in the championship but this is a totally different Bournemouth team now, one that's much more likely to go down again than regain Premier League status imo.

They are a small club even for the Championship. I must have a dozen match day programmes in the attic of regular games against Hereford in the bottom two leagues.
I shouldn't give them too hard a time as they deserve much credit for their achievements over the past 5 or 6 yrs but for me the journey is over and they face uncertain times.
I wouldn't be surprised if owner Maxim Demin starts draining the money from the club rather than trying to invest now. And maybe even pull some daft stunt by employing Harry Redknapp to try and save them after Christmas.

Bristol City! 4 seasons ago i said City would become a PL team within 3 seasons, so yeah, i was wrong (only had small bets on them then), but i'm sticking with them again this season.
Manager Lee Johnson who was in charge of City during those 4 seasons was sacked last month and they are now under new management. Investment continues on and off the pitch (owner Stephen Landsdowne has a net worth of about £1.9B).
It's the price that's a bit more special this year. Last few seasons they have been 16 & 20/1 to win it but you can get 18/1 just for promotion with Skybet this season. Most are going around 13/2 to 8/1 though. I cant see 18/1 lasting too long.

I've had a small punt on Boro for promotion too. I like that old fcuker Warnock, he's been a decent manager over the years and has already promoted teams to the top flight on four occasions. I wouldnt be surprised if he made it a fifth and bought some good times to the Boro fans.
Most other firms are going around half the 10/1 offered by Paddy P's.

PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills

CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet

LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
 
Just adding to Bristol City bets. I've got enough on them now.

PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills

CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £3.E.W @ 40/1 Skybet (4 pl, 5th odds)
22/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £2 @ 14/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £4 @ 5/1 Skybet


LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
 
A couple of Premier League bets added.

West Ham to go down? They struggled last season and Moyes will do well to turn that around this coming season.
I think they lost a lot in moving into the Olympic stadium. It's seems less daunting than a trip to Upton Park and i'm not sure it feels like West Ham anymore.
Their sponsors go 11/2 for the drop. Just about big enough for me to have a small punt and wind my lad up.

Newcastle for a Top 10 finish.
They finished 13th last season, 10pts away from 10th place, so improvement is obviously needed but I do think places 9 and 10 are up for grabs and the 5/1 makes me believe i could well get my stake back with a bottom half finish bet, later on in the season. Matty Longstaff, signing a new contract today is a positive.

I also had a couple of quid on a top six finish at a poor 33/1 too. I'm already regretting that and should of gone to bed an hour ago.


PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
23/08/20 Relegation - West Ham £5 @ 11/2 Betway
23/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £10 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
23/08/20 Top 6 - Newcastle £2 @ 33/1 Paddy Power

CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £3.E.W @ 40/1 Skybet (4 pl, 5th odds)
22/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £2 @ 14/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £4 @ 5/1 Skybet


LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
 
Added small stakes on three big priced bets tonight.

It's hard to believe how little a club like Newcastle have achieved over the years.

I think they're in for a better season than what most are expecting.
Bruce is a fan as well as a manager and i think he'll be up for taking the domestic cups seriously if they can avoid being in a relegation fight.
There will still be a hatred for Mike Ashley up there and talk of him trying to find a buyer etc but amongst all the shite i think they'll have a decent season compared to recent ones.
Not finishing in the bottom half would be a good season but a hunch that they might get close to a trip to Wembley has made me take 40 & 50/1 about the domestic cups.

A lowest scoring team bet on Everton at 50/1 was too tempting also. It'll more likely be Palace, Villa, Fulham or Sheff utd but i reckon i might get a run for my two quid if they fail to improve their strike force this transfer window.


PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
23/08/20 Relegation - West Ham £5 @ 11/2 Betway
23/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £10 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
23/08/20 Top 6 - Newcastle £2 @ 33/1 Paddy Power
25/08/20 Lowest scoring team - Everton £2 @ 50/1 W.Hills


CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £3.E.W @ 40/1 Skybet (4 pl, 5th odds)
22/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £2 @ 14/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £4 @ 5/1 Skybet


LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway


FA CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 50/1 W.Hills


EFL CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 40/1 W.Hills
 
Just adding a couple of Top Scorer bets before the season starts.
More on Nahki Wells for Bristol City @ 25/1 and a chancers bet on Callum Wilson at Newcastle @ 100/1.

You're probably thinking i've lost the plot with Wilson (and most of these other bets), but he's at a good age, knows about scoring in the Premier League (14 goals, 9 assists in the 18/19 season) and dare i say it... he's now at a big club. I think he'll love it being the main striker there.


PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
23/08/20 Relegation - West Ham £5 @ 11/2 Betway
23/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £10 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
23/08/20 Top 6 - Newcastle £2 @ 33/1 Paddy Power
25/08/20 Lowest scoring team - Everton £2 @ 50/1 W.Hills
26/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £8 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
28/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
28/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £5 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
06/09/20 Relegation - West Ham £7 @ 9/2 Betway
09/09/20 Top Scorer - Callum Wilson £2.50 E.W @ 100/1 Bet Victor (4 pl, 1/4 odds)



CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £3.E.W @ 40/1 Skybet (4 pl, 1/5 odds)
22/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £2 @ 14/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £4 @ 5/1 Skybet
06/09/20 Top Scorer - Nahki Wells £3 E.W @ 28/1 Gentingbet (4 pl, 1/4 odds)
07/09/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 40/1 Skybet
07/09/20 Top 2 - Bristol City £3 @ 25/1 Skybet
07/09/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £6 @ 11/2 Betfair Sportsbook
07/09/20 Top 12 - Bristol City £14 @ 6/4 Skybet
09/09/20 Top Scorer - Nahki Wells £5 E.W @ 25/1 Betway (4 pl, 1/4 odds)



LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
26/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 7/1 Betway


FA CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 50/1 W.Hills


EFL CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 40/1 W.Hills


MULTI BETS
03/09/20 Top 10 - Newcastle, Relegation - Bournemouth £3 @ 137/1 Skybet
03/09/20 Relegation - West Ham, Relegation - Bournemouth £2 @ 155/1 Betway
03/09/20 Relegation - Everton, Relegation - Bournemouth £1 @ 545/1 Betway
07/09/20 Top 10 - Newcastle, Top 12 - Bristol City £10 @ 12.75/1
 
Chelsea @ + 16 @ 16/1 looks a great shout Basher if the players they have just bought hit it off.
Is that a special as it looks way to generous to me, I'd expect those sort of odds on the level.
 
They look good shouts to me Bash. Interesting. I might add those to mine in the coming weeks if you dont mind.
Good luck mate :thumb
 
I put it on the other day Slick,after reading Punters ante post thread,thought id have ago myself.
Sky are offer 1/4 odds 4 places in the prem h'cap market
Manchester City (scr)
16/1
Liverpool (+5)
16/1
Chelsea (+16)
14/1
Manchester Utd (+18)
16/1
So as you can see,Chelsea only get 11 points off Liverpool.
Put the bet on Sunday , just noticed the odds have dropped on Chelsea to 14s :)
 
Everton have come down 14s too off (+36) so they have possibilities if they can get into the top 6.
 
Punter said:
Just adding a couple of Top Scorer bets before the season starts.
More on Nahki Wells for Bristol City @ 25/1 and a chancers bet on Callum Wilson at Newcastle @ 100/1.

You're probably thinking i've lost the plot with Wilson (and most of these other bets), but he's at a good age, knows about scoring in the Premier League (14 goals, 9 assists in the 18/19 season) and dare i say it... he's now at a big club. I think he'll love it being the main striker there.


PREMIER LEAGUE
17/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
23/08/20 Relegation - West Ham £5 @ 11/2 Betway
23/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £10 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
23/08/20 Top 6 - Newcastle £2 @ 33/1 Paddy Power
25/08/20 Lowest scoring team - Everton £2 @ 50/1 W.Hills
26/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £8 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
28/08/20 Relegation - Everton £8 @ 25/1 W.Hills
28/08/20 Top 10 - Newcastle £5 @ 5/1 Paddy Power
06/09/20 Relegation - West Ham £7 @ 9/2 Betway
09/09/20 Top Scorer - Callum Wilson £2.50 E.W @ 100/1 Bet Victor (4 pl, 1/4 odds)



CHAMPIONSHIP
19/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 35/1 Betfair Sportsbook
19/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £4 @ 18/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Promotion - Middlesbrough £5 @ 10/1 Paddy Power
19/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £8 @ 6/1 Skybet
19/08/20 Relegation - Bournemouth £20 @ 25/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Winner - Bristol City £3.E.W @ 40/1 Skybet (4 pl, 1/5 odds)
22/08/20 Promotion - Bristol City £2 @ 14/1 Skybet
22/08/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £4 @ 5/1 Skybet
06/09/20 Top Scorer - Nahki Wells £3 E.W @ 28/1 Gentingbet (4 pl, 1/4 odds)
07/09/20 Winner - Bristol City £2 @ 40/1 Skybet
07/09/20 Top 2 - Bristol City £3 @ 25/1 Skybet
07/09/20 Top 6 - Bristol City £6 @ 11/2 Betfair Sportsbook
07/09/20 Top 12 - Bristol City £14 @ 6/4 Skybet
09/09/20 Top Scorer - Nahki Wells £5 E.W @ 25/1 Betway (4 pl, 1/4 odds)



LEAGUE TWO
17/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 8/1 Betway
26/08/20 Winner - Salford £5 @ 7/1 Betway


FA CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 50/1 W.Hills


EFL CUP
25/08/20 Winner - Newcastle £4 @ 40/1 W.Hills


MULTI BETS
03/09/20 Top 10 - Newcastle, Relegation - Bournemouth £3 @ 137/1 Skybet
03/09/20 Relegation - West Ham, Relegation - Bournemouth £2 @ 155/1 Betway
03/09/20 Relegation - Everton, Relegation - Bournemouth £1 @ 545/1 Betway
07/09/20 Top 10 - Newcastle, Top 12 - Bristol City £10 @ 12.75/1
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Nahki Wells' odd for best goalscorer is 34 @ bet365
 
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