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English Premier League betting 15-17th September

slick

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English Premier League
15 Sep 12:45 UK Norwich v West Ham 2.20 3.50 3.10
15 Sep 15:00 UK Aston Villa v Swansea 2.30 3.30 3.10
15 Sep 15:00 UK Fulham v West Brom 1.95 3.60 3.75
15 Sep 15:00 UK Stoke v Man City 4.80 3.60 1.75
15 Sep 15:00 UK Man Utd v Wigan 1.25 6.00 10.00
15 Sep 15:00 UK Arsenal v Southampton 1.36 5.00 8.00
15 Sep 15:00 UK QPR v Chelsea 4.20 3.75 1.80
15 Sep 17:30 UK Sunderland v Liverpool 3.20 3.30 2.25
16 Sep 16:00 UK Reading v Tottenham 3.60 3.40 2.05
17 Sep 20:00 UK Everton v Newcastle 1.80 3.60 4.40

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I'm no fan of short-priced away bets, in fact they are a sure fire way to the poor house in my view but Chelsea's price has been drifting all week and has surely got to be close to backable at 4/5.
 
Well spotted ODM, even @ 1.8's the bet stands out a mile considering the current form QPR are in.

I need to have a good think about this weekends fixtures because theres the potential for quite a few banana skins imo.
 
Sunderland 2/1 at home deserves a 2nd look. I agree Chelsea could be worth backing also.

Swansea could also avoid defeat away to Villa.
 
Liverpool couldnt score in a brothel with a £50 note stapled to their bellend.

Granted the team playing Hearts in the last game in Europa league will be different to that that starts against Sunderland but with Fletcher up and running already for the black cats it could be another good weekend for them.

As mentioned in another thread but if Suarez gets injured or gets another large ban then who is going to score the goals for Liverpool ?

It'll be interesting to see what Punters views are because he'll be paying a lot more attention to whats happening at Anfield than me and will have a better idea of fringe strikers etc
 
Well lets put it this way, i've transfered Suarez out of my dream and replaced him with Steven Fletcher. Yes, big price on Sunderland that.

I fancy them to have a good season and a win looks a real possible here. They've started well with two draws at tough places (Arsenal & Swansea) and with their game against Reading being cancelled this is their first home game of the season. I'm sure they'll have great support behind them.

Liverpool, well we're a bit shit at the moment, i think the striker situation is being over cooked a bit, we can swap things about if one gets injured. Maybe Borini or Sterling could benifit if Suarez was to get injured, both are playing out a bit to wide at the moment. Not a strong strikeforce at the club though admittedley. I dont think we'll pick up more than 1pt from our next two games.

It's hard trying to find a footie bet anywhere in the leagues for me this week but i'm wondering if Stoke +1 @ 6/5 Betfred might be worth chancing, City are conceding more than they'd like and maybe they wont be at their best here with Real Madrid in midweek, in the back of their minds.
 
As soon as I see Stoke against any decent side at home punt I automatically think draw either 0-0 or 1-1 and I wouldn't be suprised to see a similar result tomorrow allthough ODM has cast a dark shadow in my mind by mentioning Stoke can no longer decrease the size of their pitch. I suppose when Delap used the long throw in it was an advantage but he rarely seems to get a sniff in these days.
It's the stoke fans more than anything that give their team a huge lift in these games and they really do give Stoke a 12th man. Would I take Stoke +1 @ 6/5 ? I doubt it as City have the capability to score a hatful against Stoke even though they never do.
If you like stats though then I imagine it would be worth taking a chance Punt.

As for Liverpool I don't expect them to get beat, as soon as I saw this fixture 'draw' sprang to my mind, I expect Liverpool to dominate possession miss a shedful of chances , score the odd goal and Sunderland to cancel it out in one of their very few attacks. thats what my crystal ball says anyhow.

There's nothing this week I like the look of allthough I do expect Spurs to turn around their season sooner rather than later and Spurs @ just over evens might be worth a chance, If they fail to produce again then it looks like another Ramos scenario.
 
I agree about Spurs Slick. As I often say, there's far too much of a knee-jerk reaction to two or three results and that's especially true of the first games of the season. If this was the first game of the season, there's no way you'd even get 4/6 on Spurs. You'd have to think that AVB's team will start to gel at some stage and Sunday is as good a time as any. I'm on at 11/10
 
When i was in the bookies iticked Fulham to win instead of Everton. I usually ask them to void it and resubmit my coupon but this time i didn't so if Fulham win then I wont touch Everton due to it being a 'sign'
 
I also think even up to last year i would normally be all over Liverpool and Spurs as on paper and in my view they are superior to both Reading and Sunderland accordingly.

Normally i would back them both in singles knowing that one winning and the other not was basically returning my money but this was not always the case and mist often than not both teams would fail to win.

Discipline :) be strong keggers.... Be strong.

So instead Ive backed Sunderland and Reading/Spurs DRAW knowing if one win then I'm backing an 1/2 winner. If both win then it's 2/1 approx
 
I've gone off the Stoke bet now Slick and i hope you do them.

Tom Cleverley, anybody see his shit performance for England in front of goal the other night?
I cant say whether he'll play tomorrow or not but if he does i'm chancing him to score. I know he'll probably play a bit further back for Utd than what he did for England but i think he's due one and the fact he'd be playing against the team he was loaned out to last season encourages me a bit more.
The season before that he was at Watford where he scored 11 goals in 33 appearances, so he has got a goal in him.
He's 9/2 to score.
 
I like Cleverley Punt, he's a clever footballer so to speak but if there's one thing that let's him down in the forward midfield position he plays in is his lack of goals, it may come with time but while missing is on his mind after the England debacle I'd have reservations about backing him as a goal scorer.
Still if yor on it m8 good luck.

I also like Wellbeck a lot and think given enough playing time he will become a cracking player but at the moment he's trying too hard to please due to his lack of first team starts, If he gets a start which I doubt then i wouldn't have any reservations about him nabbing one against Wigan.

Good luck too Keggers and you be strong lol.
 
Tell you who will make you a profit over the season- Kagawa. 13/2 first goalscorer. 13/8 any time or a buy at 21 player goal minutes on the spreads. Only downside is you can't guarantee that you won't back him for ten games then he comes on as a sub and nets three and makes you cock all.

I'm liking the potential of Jonjo Shelvey to bag five or six this season too Kop. I know he hasn't been prolific but I think the new manager's tactics will suit him and he'll get some cracks at goal. 5/1 anytime scorer. Buy of 6 on the player goal minutes
 
Shelvey is going in my dream team as soon as we stop the rot ODM. I really hope he gets a chance this season, i trust him in front of goal.

Buy of 6 on the player goal minutes

What does that mean exactly? I know it's on the spreads but..?
 
You could be right there about Kagawa ODM unless that is Fergie decides to use him like he did Park, the more Cleverley comes on then the less Kagawa will be used or visa versa'

Good luck with Shelvey too, He's never impressed me much (good name for a song don't you think) but he did raise my eyebrows when pool played City a couple of weeks back as he looked a different player, but and this is a big BUT he doesn't strike me as being a dependable goal scorer, he may score one or two with his head due to his size but I'd want a bit more than 6's for an anytime scorer in the recourse (is that a word) of a season.
Saying that I was reading an article today where Aldridge had similar thoughts to you.

Watch the baldy bastard bag one tomorrow now I've put a negative slant on him.
 
I was never a fan of Park but a lot of the Manu fans I know loved him (generally telly watchers mind) so going on that he could be a miss surely? Fletchers back though I notice.
Swansea in a false position for me, whereas Villa probably arent. Chancing a scrappy 2-1 home win but more in hope than expectation possibly, singles & doubles with Forest same score. Dont normally bet this stage of the season tbh
 
Park is not Kagawa. Kagawa is not Park. Park was a fucking dynamo. Did very little spectacular but never stopped running, making space, making runs for passes and tackling/blocking/generally getting in the way when needed. He was like having two men on the pitch. one in each half and SAF knew his worth which is why he liked to play him in big games.

Kagawa is a proper footballer. Brilliant passer of a ball. Always aware of what is around him and a natural at finding space for himself all the way through the whole game and can take the ball on his own and go past players when he needs to. More of a David Silva type player than a Park type (I'm not suggesting he's as good as Silva before anyone jumps down my throat).

Kop, on the Player Goal Minutes on the spreadbetting, each player is given a "price" and you would decide whether you wanted to buy (i.e. back) or sell at that price. For example, the Celtic game that's on now, say Commons was quoted as 26-28 before the game. You fancy his chances so you buy at 28 for £1 per minute. If he scores doesn't score, you lose your £28. If he scores, you get back £1 for every minute. So if he scores on 38 minutes, you get £38, minus the 28 that you bought at, leaving you £10 profit.

The upside of the bet compared to a normal first goalscorer or anytime goalscorer is that your player can keep making money for every goal he scores. If he scores on 40, 50 and 60 minutes, you get 150 - your 28 = £122 profit. The downside of it (which is why I chose Commons for this example, is that your player can score and you can still lose. Commons scored on 4 minutes so you would still end up losing £24 even though you were on the right player. Of course, the game is still in play so he may net again yet.

I generally like to pick defenders as they may not been prolific but they are cheap and can often be thrown forward at late stages of the game for corners and set pieces. For the price of buying one Kris Commons in a game, you would be able to back a defender of your choice for about 7 games and he only has to net once in the second half of one of those games and you're in the black.

Vidic and Terry have probably been my most profitable. I'm a sucker for Glen Johnson too as he often gets into the right positions but his finishing is shit (only marginally better than Suarez:lol). Now and again I pick a midfielder and stick with him (YaYa at Man City has lined my pocket many times) and Kagawa is going to be one of my main men this season.
 
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