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Euro 2012 Winner

I havent read the thread entirely but what do we think the chances of Italy pulling out do to the odds?
 
I dont think they will pull out but odds would go lower on everyone
 
well the prime minister has said maybe its time to forget football until its all sorted and the coach has vsaid he can live with it, so its closer than I thought a few days ago
 
England defender Gary Cahill has been ruled out of Euro 2012 with a double fracture of his jaw.
The Chelsea centre-half suffered the injury when he collided with goalkeeper Joe Hart during the friendly win over Belgium on Saturday.
Liverpool's Martin Kelly has been called up as his replacement, subject to Uefa's approval.
Fellow defender John Terry's hamstring injury has been scanned and he will be re-assessed on Tuesday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18311737
 
I can't imagine Italy withdrawing barring 'substantial political pressure' forced upon 'em. It'd be very interesting to say the least if they did withdraw so close to the tournament what with Italy's first match next Sunday.

Micah Richards and Rio Ferdinand must be wondering how Martin Kelly got in ahead of 'em (or perhaps they're pouting publically but counting their blessings & money privately). Rio reacts on Twitter in a 'diplomatic as he could have' veiled response at those 'footballing reasons' as to why he was left out ahead of John Terry and now, Martin Kelly.

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status/209285968430243840
 
Jonjo Shelvey must be praying for Scott Parker to get injured.
 
Portugal value ? they got pumped by Turkey who are pish. I cant see Portugal qualifying tbh but my logic is shit and i can't pick my arse nevermind winners.

I've backed it to be a Germany v Holland final @ 9/1

I've also done Poland, Italy, Germany and England all to qualify from their groups.
 
I've back England not to qualify.

Also backed Germany V Netherlands final at 11.0 and Germany V France final at 29.0

Done a few group tricasts too -

Russia/Czech/Poland - 13.0
Spain/Ire/Croatia - 17.0
Neth/Germ/Port - 7.0
Fra/Ukr/Eng - 17.0

Interestingly, I thought Ukraine were value at 5.0 to be top group scorers. They're always capable of a goal or two - certainly more of a threat than England! What you guys think?
 
Punter said:
Jonjo Shelvey must be praying for Scott Parker to get injured.
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:lol

What a fcuk up this is turning out to be, they won't select Ferdinhand because of Terry and won't select Richards beacuse he wouldn't go on the stanby list, just who the fcuk do the FA think they are, they carry on like the England squad is brimming with talent.
The way things are going we'll be lucky not to finish bottom of the group, it's just as well they got Hodgson in who just might sneak in a draw along the way so we don't come back pointless.
 
Personally Gav I think ateam like Ukraine could have done with some competitive football leading upto these finals because they don't have the experience in top flight International football like most of the western European countries do.
I'm presuming 5's for them to be top goal scorer is in the group and not the tourny?
 
slick said:
:lol

What a fcuk up this is turning out to be, they won't select Ferdinhand because of Terry and won't select Richards beacuse he wouldn't go on the stanby list, just who the fcuk do the FA think they are, ....
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More to the point, who the fuck does Richards think he his? If he won't go on the standby list, how can they call him up from the standby list?
 
I'm surprised so many are writing off Spain when to me they still look streets ahead of anyone else. No Soldado in their squad and players such as Cazola, Fabregas, Silva, Mata and Martinez unlikely to start when almost all would be first choices in most other teams. That also have Llorente as a plan b (or C or D) so they seem to have most angles covered.
 
hotspur said:
Id be intrigued to know the max stake BetVic will take on this...if its 100 then good on them...if its 10 then its neither here nor there-I think we know which is more likely.

The thing about Spain is actualy VERY,VERY simple................................................................

There is virtually NO chance that their price will be value..

If anyone disagrees,,,Id love to know their reasoning?
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Ok I'll have a go.

Chances of Spain qualifying from their group I would say is 90% so odds are 1.11

QF against someone from Englands group - I would say Spain are 75% to qualify so odds are 1.33

SF against Germany/Holland - I would go 65% Spain to get through so odds are 1.53

Final again against Germany/Holland so again 65% so odds are 1.53.

£10 all in bet rolling over onto each next game would return 34.55 so I think fair odds on Spain are 3.45.

How did I do Hotspur?:lol
 
I'm agreeing with your logic that Netherlands will get to the semis so my bets for the euros are

Netherlands to get to the semis @ 2.20 with blue sq my main bet , getting out of the group that contains Denmark , Germany , Netherlands , Portugal will be the most difficult task , if they get through the group playing any side in group A should be "easier"

Netherlands to win @ 8.0 with Coral , I can see them beating Spain in the final this time

Van Persie top premiership goalscorer @ 5.50 with bluesq , its difficult to see anyone else on the list getting more than a couple of goals , especially with Rooney missing the first two matches .
 
Colbro said:
Ok I'll have a go.

Chances of Spain qualifying from their group I would say is 90% so odds are 1.11

QF against someone from Englands group - I would say Spain are 75% to qualify so odds are 1.33

SF against Germany/Holland - I would go 65% Spain to get through so odds are 1.53

Final again against Germany/Holland so again 65% so odds are 1.53.

£10 all in bet rolling over onto each next game would return 34.55 so I think fair odds on Spain are 3.45.

How did I do Hotspur?:lol
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thanks Colbro.
Not sure why you ended by laughing?
Unless you were laughing at your odds?
I rather think you have shown that indeed the Spain price has no value.

I read a lot about various tipsters opinions and virtually noone thinks Spains price is value...and if you believe theyd be 65% chances v Germany in the final...then I will happily bite your hand off.
 
hotspur said:
..and if you believe theyd be 65% chances v Germany in the final...then I will happily bite your hand off.
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I think if Spain played Germany three times then spain would progress twice. Therefore you could have a point as Spain won in both 2008 and 2010.
 
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