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Antepost Soccer Betting/35% r.o.i

Wayne said:
:lol The scary thing about all this is you think you're making sense! Yet you just go round and round in circles answering questions with questions.

There's so many holes in your above post (most of which have been covered), I haven't got time to go into detail again but answer me this if you don't mind.

How the hell are you going to do that?
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Almost let your first sentence go Wayne.

You know Wayne,what I love about gambling more than anything else-TRULY,more than ANYTHING else is that....
the more objective I am the more I win:).

Indeed,gambling is the ultimate test of a persons objectivity.

By all means question whether I make sense-I myself will "measure" the amount of sense I have made, in May.
Gotta tell ya that,right now, its looking like ret:beerirement beckons!
 
hotspur said:
Gotta tell ya that,right now, its looking like retirement beckons!
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I see you've learnt nothing. :duh

Seeing as you can't grasp the most basic of points, there's no point commenting on anything else is there.
Good luck with the book. :lookaround
 
hotspur said:
If I reimburse anyone who loses on any of my bets on here,I also dont call that generous,rather itd just be,um,gosh I dunno,my duty.
fuck it,I know thats the wrong word but I think you get what I was trying to say.
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I know what you're trying to say, wouldn't agree in the slightest though. At a push if someone was selling their tips you could potentially argue they had a duty to refund the fees they charged for the tips, but someone posting tips/opinions for free on a public forum out of the goodness of their heart? They owe nothing to anyone if they don't win - it's the nature of gambling forums - you follow people over a period of time, get a feel for whether you think you can trust their judgement or not, and if you decide you can, you follow them with your own funds at your own risk.

hotspur said:
rcgills,in the last couple of days I have learnt a bit about the way you see things.
And its clear that there is not a chance in hell youd ever believe the things I do and say.
OK,I guess, then,we will leave it there,

best wishes
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Well, there is something we can agree on then, even if it's only the fact that we're never going to agree :lookaround

Good luck with your bets, wherever you post them.
 
UM,do any of the mods object if I have a bash at rescuing this thread?
any bets Ive placed already wiould be deemed a loser so Id be starting with a 10% loss.

it would be much easier for me if I could do this over the summer ie including county champs cricket,formula 1,superleague and euros.
But I am reasonably confident of being able to turn a profit just on soccer having looked at the current promotion odds

btw I have never read the last 2 posts as I didnt want to have to reply-I squinted my eyes just now to avoid seeing them
 
UM,do any of the mods object if I have a bash at rescuing this thread?
any bets Ive placed already wiould be deemed a loser so Id be starting with a 10% loss.
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10% or 100% :unsure
 
um,dont get you Punter,wouldnt I still have my original bank available minus the points I have laid out(which is,no doubt more than 10%)?
 
I'm not sure what you mean Hotspur, but if all your bets to date have lost then wouldn't it mean you are starting again with a 100% loss?

What i do know is it's certainly nothing like the 35% you said you were going to get at the beggining of the season, or even the 10% ROI you said you were going to make in your sleep. Feel free to try again though and if you get an accy up then great, just dont set yourself a ROI or at least shout about how much you are going to make this time. Good luck :)
 
...ah sorry, i see you had a £2000 bank start and you've not used all of it yet :duh

carry on.
 
right,um,well I think ive learnt not to shout about any roi...which is why in my post i didnt mention anything about roi:)

yep,100% of the bets i have placed will have lost...but say my bank was 200 pounds...then Id have laid out 20 pounds.....hence my loss would be 10 % of my bank.

thats all i meant,punter:)
 
hmmm,Id like to briefly address Punters throwaway remark about ''if I get an acca up''.
IF all I need to do is make A profit,Im perfectly happy to stick to singles.

BUT it would be no more meaningful if I succeeded just with singles...

eg I could just bet 300 points on Stevenage on promotion at 7s...hope they get to the play-off final...then hedge....

it would demonstrate/prove rien...but if they got to the final....Id have made my 35%+
 
I hope you land one hotspur, i really do.

I had a discussion with my other half sometime last year on gambling, i'd just lost a days pay trying to win 4 days pay, she went fuckin ape, she said something along the lines of "is that all you're trying to win?" She went on to say that she didn't mind me losing MY money, as long as i was trying to win a life changing amount. Basically she couldn't understand why anybody would spend so much time and interest gambling if there wasn't the possibility of a life changing payout at the end of each bet.
So i now have her blessing providing there's the chance of a big payout, she reckons i should aim for 5k and above lol
 
omg Punter,your missus and I are totally on the same wavelentgh,lol:)-thats a quote straight out of my book!
 
youve done me a favour with those posts,Punter cos soon the posts by Wayne and RC Gills will be on the previous page:).

Right,well um,unless anyone objects,Ill carry on..

Lille to win the french league 20-1 bet365 30 points
(I am not sure what my bank is as it depends on how my Johnstones Paint bets are gonna be treated)and I dont wanna see previous posts!)
Lets just see how the land lies in 3 weeks time,if thats ok?

Bank= previous bank -30
 
hotspur said:
youve done me a favour with those posts,Punter cos soon the posts by Wayne and RC Gills will be on the previous page:).
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You can read my post you know, it didn't bite. And if you don't, I might have to quote it in the first message on the next page :naughty
 
weeelll,but what about you-know-whos post.
cant imagine not wanting to reply to that...whatever it was
 
I am actually giving serious thought to making a ''deal'' of sorts...seeing as Punter actually did seem to be in earnest about wanting this to be true:)

There IS incontrontrovertible proof freely available on the internet about my gambling exploits-but,of course,it cant be found without knowing my identity....so......i am thinking of possibly revealing my id IF,and only if,I fail to turn this around.....

Failing that-youll just have to wait for the book-my editor actually asked if Wayne would be prepared to be photo'd reading one of my posts.lol.I said I doubted it:)

However,we may use 1 or 2 of his quotes.....eg

Even Wayne of Betnod (hotspurs nemesis)says ''I like the way you bet...''....and,on several occaisions,...''...amazing...''
 
hotspur said:
weeelll,but what about you-know-whos post.
cant imagine not wanting to reply to that...whatever it was
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Wayne hasn't been on here for nearly 3 weeks. Although the possibility can't be ruled out that he may be lurking on here, and ready to jump out and shout boo at you just when you think the coast is clear.
 
yes I know-thats why I am willing to carry on.
For the record,I have no problem at all with being called a moron or being told I cant do this.........since,as I have just stated,at any time,I only ever needed to reveal my id.
But being told that I was USING Yorkie..now that did upset me.......and when you said you didnt believe that I gave away a tip..that exasperated me.Amazing how 3 people on here have told me what a pro gambler would or wouldnt do-fuck me,is there some book out there feeding nonsense about pro gamblers?

Guess what,pro gamblers are individuals first and foremost.

PLUS,in my case-perhaps you never saw it-I clearly stated in another thread that I feel overwhelmingly guilty about the way I dealt with my fathers last few months/my mothers alzheimers.To the point of being a cunt!
It dont take much to work out that someone who feels enormous guilt might wanna DO something to assuage it and that that would probably take precedence over anything else

OOPS SORRY-THAT WAS A MISTAKE!!dunno what I did and cudnt be bothered to type it again!

Wayne never really bothered me,believe it or not.After all you cant really do much-verbal-wise to someone who
a) genuinely believes that they are a cunt and

b)re the gambling insults...can proove hes telling the truth at any time
 
you know what baffles the hell out of me-the fact that one of the few people who you would,logically expect to believe me,turns out to be the biggest critic of myself that I have EVER had in my whole life.
I mean,it was YEARS before I was able to show that I can make money from these bets......and in all those years I got laughed at/rediculed.
And there is NOTHING on the internet nor in ANY book about HOW to do these bets successfully EXCEPT possily Waynes thread..
SO,logically how ELSE could I know about these bets UNLESS Id done them successfully?

(unless ,what,i found Waynes thread and decided to post about these bets on a forum where the writer posts-yeah thats well likely)
 
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