Antepost Soccer Betting/35% r.o.i

[rcgills]

Poorly worded on my part, when I say "wouldn't you have been better off", I don't mean in financial terms, I mean it more in terms of "wouldn't it have been a better idea".

I guess I have to admit that I tend to do whatevers easiest rcgills-but my charity of choice wouldve been compassion in world farming so I guess no person wouldve been better off.

Compassion in farming, or the back pocket of the class of degenerates you get on TDP/Betnod? I'd vote for the farmers

 

[Wayne]

rcgills please can you tell me why you have such a hard time believing that?are you SO cynical.

IT IS TRUE,I ABSOLUTELY PROMISE YOU

I've got a 15inch cock.

IT IS TRUE. I ABSOLUTELY PROMISE YOU (despite me showing you no concrete proof, it being against the norm and frankly unbelievable).

Get it now?

And I agree with RC. You're probably now on the wind-up as you're completely missing every point being made to you. Or you're just genuinely thick? Either way, it's not pleasant.

Go massage your ego somewhere else. I've got better things to do.

 

[hotspur]

I do put my money where my mouth is-I am betting everything I have this season.
I think it got boring some time ago-I was only answering your questions.
The implications of knowing "how much they will take" is simply that,since I had never placed a bet with that firm,I had no idea if they were likely to take on big liabilities(for future reference)
I suspected not but the Napoli bet couldve been a way to find out.
I am very disappointed that you say I "was still going on about it 3 days later".
Yes,3 days later I was still trying to help someone else.

None of the things you have quoted as being reasons I say I cant post on here are in fact reasons I say I cant post on here.
The only reason for not posting bets on here is that I am now doing it on another site.
I struggle to see what difference it makes where I post my bets.

Finally,rcgills,I should jolly well hope you and everyone else on betnod does have far more respect for LMC tipster since as far as I know he is not a cunt,whereas I have made it clear on here on more than one occaision that I am.

 

[rcgills]

I've got a 15inch cock.

IT IS TRUE. I ABSOLUTELY PROMISE YOU (despite me showing you no concrete proof, it being against the norm and frankly unbelievable).

I bet when the cops caught you flashing it in the local park you claimed you were "just trying to help those less fortunate than yourself" too, didn't you?

 

[hotspur]

I've got a 15inch cock.

IT IS TRUE. I ABSOLUTELY PROMISE YOU (despite me showing you no concrete proof, it being against the norm and frankly unbelievable).

Get it now?

And I agree with RC. You're probably now on the wind-up as you're completely missing every point being made to you. Or you're just genuinely thick? Either way, it's not pleasant.

Go massage your ego somewhere else. I've got better things to do.

OK I think I get it,what I say cant be true because its against the norm and cant be proved.

 

[Wayne]

 

[Wayne]

OK I think I get it,what I say cant be true because its against the norm and cant be proved.

No it can be proven, it's just YOU can't and haven't proven it despite saying you can/would.
But as that's been pointed out and ignored by you several times now, it's obviously pointless continuing this dialogue.

END.

 

[rcgills]

THUNDERCELT,um,if you,despite all this,ever want any antepost help,I assume the mods. would give you my email address.

Forgot to comment on this before, but if you want to pass on your e-mail to ThunderCelt, probably better to do it yourself via PM.

 

[Pete89]

Guys I think you should all lay off Hotsput abit. From what I can see he was trying a) to show Yorkie a more disaplined and profitible way to bet b) to show that by following his "rules" if you like any muppet can profit from antepost betting.

 

[rcgills]

With regard to point a), best of luck to him, half the forum's tried and failed there.

As for point b), I'd have no objections if that was all he was trying to do. But we've gone from saying 10% is easy, to trying to make 35%, to trying to get someone else to make 35%, and now he tells us he's given up on this one as he's posting on another forum trying to get 60%. He's got a lot of talk, but very little in the way of results to back that up.

 

[Wayne]

b) to show that by following his "rules" if you like any muppet can profit from antepost betting.

And that's the whole point Pete. There's no credible proof that he makes a profit. No track record, nothing. Just a load of after-eventing, ambiguous tips and blag. It's nothing personal but for the sake of balance and mainly because he is trying to come across as some sort of betting coach, it's only fair to point that out to any newbies or gullible/inexperienced punters who consider blindly following this guy's advice. It's their mug punter money and they can do what they like with it, but they should be aware his strategy remains unproven.

He's had plenty of chance to prove it and hasn't/can't. He avoids any direct questioning or requests and is purposely obstructive. And would you be happy to have bought into his 'I make profit easily' mentality, copied his bets on this thread and then seen him post this yesterday;

btw,I suspect that my bets on this thread will probably LOSE......

Oh and he's started a new thread on another forum posting his tips there instead! Sorry but taking everything into account, that instantly sets all my alarm bells ringing.

 

[hotspur]

I am sory rcgills,REALLY I am-I want this to be at an end(and this will,HOPEFULLY be my last word for a while-I need to get away) as much as you do-but I really do need to pick you up on your last post.SORRY,once again.I did try to ignore it but to no avail.

You say that "youd have NO objections to Petes points if that was ALL I was trying to do!!
Well thats GREAT news.
When I got to that part I was really happy and I read on curious to find out what ELSE I was trying to do.
I mean you can imagine,cant you,my CURIOSTY,seeing as I had no fucking idea what ELSE I was trying to do...........

And so,I HOPE you can imagine how disappointed I was to find that you dont,in fact,tell me what ELSE I am trying to do

NOW,I would very much have liked to end my post there ie in the hope that you and everyone else can see my point without me spelling it out BUT, unfortunately,Ive lost a certain amount of faith in you guys lately...so...

1)you say Ive gone from 10%easy to 35% thread-WELL,whats illogical about that?
would you rather I had done a 10% thread?the problem there would be that its VERY easy to make 10% by luck and also how would anyone know if it was "easy".
It HAD to be more than 10% to imply that 10% is relatively easy.

2) Then you point out that Ive gone from doing it myself to getting "someone else"to do the bets.

YES,but not JUST SOMEONE ELSE,NOT JUST SOMEONE ELSE,someone that everyone on betnod is convinced NEEDS HELP.So,once again I ask,whats the problem there exactly!?

you have stated that you have NO OBJECTIONS to me doing what Pete said ie using my thread to attempt to help Yorkie..(and simultaneously demonstrating that,this season at least,pretty much anyone can make a reasonable profit if they use some basic money management "rules")....So WHY use that very thing AGAINST ME in the same post!!Jesus fucking Christ!

Let me ask you a question,whats MORE IMPORTANT me making 35% or a 5% chance,no-fuck it-a 1%chance that by getting Yorkie to do the bets and seeing for himself that long-term bets are better and far less addictive,he loses less money in the future?
I know which one MATTERS TO ME-I am,SADLY less sure which matters to you.

3) Then you point out that I have now decided to go to another forum to proof 60% bets.

WELL,THERE we have a RELATED CONTINGENCY do we not?(I decided not to dwell on the constant critiscm and insults I get on here as contributing to my decision since I would hope that it would be obvious that that influenced my decision)

If I DID NOT go to another forum HOW could I help Yorkie on here!!?*

You yourself have already strongly indicated how half the people on betnod have tried and failed to help him.

Probably I would have too BUT as part of the research for my book I have read a "bit"about problem gambling and I suspect that there is MUCH MORE chance of WEENING OFF someone like Yorkie than from getting them to stop altogether.
Furthermore,I have very good reason to believe that THE BEST WAY,by far, for anyone to learn how to do antepost bets is to think about them and do them themselves.By which I mean,I dont think there was ANY chance that Yorkie would have done antepost bets(profitable/sensible ones at least) JUST BY READING my thread.It really was.imho,important that he came up with the bets.

BUT,thats all by the by now cos Yorkie now thinks I am against him...so lets go to your last comment.

You say I have very little in the way of results to back up all the talk.

Well,first of all THANKS! I am grateful that apparently,you feel there is at least "something"ie "very little" to back it up

However I would like to point out that its pretty hard for me to have ANY results when I do ANTEPOST bets and we are in fucking freezing January!

Now,the bets I have done on betnod could win...but that would rightly be seen as luck,

But I have taken it upon myself to TREBLE the difficulty(yes 60%,is much harder than 35%) And STILL I get critized!!

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE.

Its not like I am doing it in secret-my posts are on the bleedin internet!

If I succeed,whats the problem,and,if I fail(and thats a 4-5 chance Id say)then you can all have a good laugh.
Not much in life better than a good laugh.

I APOLOGISE for the tone of this post.For the last 36 hours I have been upset,now Im just fed up with it all.SO,once I have thanked Pete89-actually may as well do it now-THANKS A LOT PETE89,your post meant a lot to me as I suspect you can imagine-I will be taking a long break(and YES,thanks I know no-one cares).

*Now the truth is that I started posting my bets on this other forum before I came up with the idea of using my thread to try to help Yorkie and if anyone wants to make that point then fine BUT it appears I am being criticised for actually getting Yorkie to do bets MORE than for going to another site which kind of renders the point mute.
It could be further pointed out that I went to the other forum for selfish reasons and now I am trying to make out I was only trying to help Yorkie-fair enough.
Point is though that I could have just fucked off but THEN I had the idea to help TC and Yorkie.
Must STOP having ideas.

GOOD LUCK everyone with your bets,antepost or otherwise
AMEN

 

[hotspur]

And that's the whole point Pete. There's no credible proof that he makes a profit. No track record, nothing. Just a load of after-eventing, ambiguous tips and blag. It's nothing personal but for the sake of balance and mainly because he is trying to come across as some sort of betting coach, it's only fair to point that out to any newbies or gullible/inexperienced punters who consider blindly following this guy's advice. It's their mug punter money and they can do what they like with it, but they should be aware his strategy remains unproven.

He's had plenty of chance to prove it and hasn't/can't. He avoids any direct questioning or requests and is purposely obstructive. And would you be happy to have bought into his 'I make profit easily' mentality, copied his bets on this thread and then seen him post this yesterday;

Oh and he's started a new thread on another forum posting his tips there instead! Sorry but taking everything into account, that instantly sets all my alarm bells ringing.

I thought I had made it clear from my Saturday post I was HAPPY to be thought of as a fantasist and a liar.
So thanks for your invaluable help there Wayne.

You do make a good point about any newbie following my bets.THEREFORE:

ANYONE WHO DID ANY OF THE BETS I GAVE PLEASE PM ME and I will personally GUARANTEE that you do not lose money

Wayne,I am surprised you say I avoid DIRECT questions.

I PROMISE to fully answer ANY direct question you care to ask,cheers

 

[hotspur]

and "purposely obsrtuctive"!!!?
I do wish youd provide an example when you make comments like that.
To my knowledge I have NEVER been deliberately obstructive on betnod

 

[rcgills]

And round in circles we go once again . Do what you like. Post where you like. Help who you like. Any posts claiming to make x% ROI for yourself or anyone else without any hard evidence to back up your claims, and I'll be back biting your ankles again.

 

[Wayne]

The scary thing about all this is you think you're making sense! Yet you just go round and round in circles answering questions with questions.

There's so many holes in your above post (most of which have been covered), I haven't got time to go into detail again but answer me this if you don't mind.

ANYONE WHO DID ANY OF THE BETS I GAVE PLEASE PM ME and I will personally GUARANTEE that you do not lose money

How the hell are you going to do that?

 

[rcgills]

Remember, he's exceptionally generous Wayne. Maybe in addition to letting those less fortunate than himself bet on the best value ante-post bet in Europe at his own expense, he also has funds set aside to refund anyone that loses money following his bets?

 

[hotspur]

The scary thing about all this is you think you're making sense! Yet you just go round and round in circles answering questions with questions.

There's so many holes in your above post (most of which have been covered), I haven't got time to go into detail again but answer me this if you don't mind.

How the hell are you going to do that?

Does this mean you dont have any direct questions for me?
I must confess i am disappointed.
As for the number of holes in my long post,I was aware of 2 smallish holes and was intrigued to know who would spot them.If there are several holes as you imply then,gosh,I guess I was wrong and I congratulate you on your find.

Sorry,Wayne,I promise I am not deliberately being obtuse.When you say how will I guarantee no-one loses,it really would help if you are a bit more specific.
I mean,without any more info,I guess if someone shows me their bet,then if it fails to win,I will give them the stake.
Perhaps you mean how will I see the evidence-I just dont know unless you specify.
I guess I will play it by ear.
Obviously I am hoping that not very many people did the bets-HOWEVER ,as long as everyone tells me ASAP(so please DO),then if its a significant amount,I can be prepared/perhaps even hedge them

UM,Wayne,if you do think of any direct questions,please post them today ,thanks.

 

[hotspur]

actually,thinking about it,hedging may not come into it as itll probably not be very much in any case.
Truth be told,if it WAS a significant amount,Id be both surprised and flattered!

 

[hotspur]

Remember, he's exceptionally generous Wayne. Maybe in addition to letting those less fortunate than himself bet on the best value ante-post bet in Europe at his own expense, he also has funds set aside to refund anyone that loses money following his bets?

You know rcgills,giving up that Napoli bet was not what I call particularly generous.
If I reimburse anyone who loses on any of my bets on here,I also dont call that generous,rather itd just be,um,gosh I dunno,my duty.
fuck it,I know thats the wrong word but I think you get what I was trying to say.

rcgills,in the last couple of days I have learnt a bit about the way you see things.
And its clear that there is not a chance in hell youd ever believe the things I do and say.
OK,I guess, then,we will leave it there,

best wishes